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Author Topic: So who is to blame?
Spookmineer~rb
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Posted: Tuesday, Nov. 15, 2005 12:44 am
I don't know the games but I read there are some probs with BF (maybe even BF2 as well) as in crashes while playing. It's hard to test a game in any possible configuration/PC system. Is BF badly coded? Is Heretic II badly coded? Is it the fault of the developer? Is it a PC problem? I know that pushing the refresh rate in BF2 (using a forcerefresh program) will cause the game to crash... How many people have had the same problem with Heretic II as you, how many people said it crashes the game? It's not black and white. People are installing programs which may conflict with others all the time without even knowing it.
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ZippyDSMLEE~rb
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Posted: Tuesday, Nov. 15, 2005 01:52 am
Ouch *L* ya GL Hexex 2 was hobbled togather you had to command line res settigns and such they never did fix that out of 2 updates?
Heretic 2 was never a big enough game to get the updates it needed I think they hobbled togather a FPS more for it sicne it was a 3rd person game at the time 3rd person was the fad...mmmmm it seems RAVEN has a recorded of quicky patch  and run 0-o
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D'sparil~rb
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Posted: Tuesday, Nov. 15, 2005 03:22 am
I had a lot of different PC's, all with Windows XP. Same problems everywhere...
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FliX~rb
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Posted: Tuesday, Nov. 15, 2005 05:03 am
Quote (photopaint @ Nov. 14 2005, 6:05 pm)
A game never 100% perfect :P

no program is,
unless its a hello world.  :s8:
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ZippyDSMLEE~rb
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Posted: Tuesday, Nov. 15, 2005 11:28 am
It would be nice to see HeXen 3 kinda like a Shooter version of morrowind *L*
Mabye alil more Adventure FPS than just a FPS...lets have more mana types 2.. and mabye 5 weapons per Class...*drool* sigh this wants to make me Dig up hexen and hexen 2 and paly them ><

has anyone made a GL/DX hexen 2 front end like GL/DX quake 1? just soemthign easy to set the options with? has anyone made updated Heretic or Hexen liek Doom 1 was been Mmm remastered by fans?
I can understand the devs not haveing the abilty to go back and make a proper update for a game seeing as they have to pour thier sweat and tears into the new ones but why has not anyone remade a CLASSIC game with one of the newer engines? the fan base would go ga ga over it and eat it up are they afriad it might out sell the new ones? are the suits that dim?

Anyway even if Hex and Her 2 were off they had enough charm to make them worth the pain *L*
Q4 just seems so bland 0-o I guess I am getting jaded in my old age 0-o

note:suits and devs are diffrent creatures :P
One only thinks about money and the other is a salve to them 0-o
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D'sparil~rb
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Posted: Tuesday, Nov. 15, 2005 01:13 pm
Q4 is really quite bland, but personaly, better than the rest of the rubbish coming out lately. I would love heXen style Morrowind, it could be called heXen World or something. But heXen and perhaps even Quake II are hardcore games, heXen really needs you to look into the story and think it all over, and gamers today want GTA. Mana types - there could be 3, blue, green, red, like keys in DooM. But if it will be like Morrowind, it's an RPG then, so there really should be a variety of weapons... Well, there isn't a single game that has more than one mana supply except Heretic II (heXen mana was more like ammo). And also we can look into more difference between classes - like barbarian shouldn't have any mana supplies, and Mage should have all three of them. Maybe red mana will be centered around elemental damage, blue around divine magic, green for nature and illusionist magic... Well, the heXen-Morrowind idea deserves a separate disscussion IMO, so if you create a topic in heXen area, I will gladly join in.
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ZippyDSMLEE~rb
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Posted: Tuesday, Nov. 15, 2005 02:13 pm
D'sparil
Go you and I thought I was the only one to have game storm ideas :3
I was thinkng of more a FPS based Adventure game like HeXeN 1 but alil bigger more areas closed off in maps so you have to come back to them later not so much morrowind I thought of morrowind becuse its about the only newest medevilish FPS even tho tis a full blow RPG.
When I sam man for hexen I mean ammo :P 3 ammo tpyes for 4 weapons is alil painfull doubleing it and then havieng weapons drain certain mana...it could work to where it would not be annoying but I'll have to naw on the idea *L*
Mmm werent there Yellow keys?
I'll have to think see how empty my mind is to start up a new HeXeN Convo....

Mmmm what gamers want...mmmmm I call the brunt of todays gamers zombies they are happy with anythign that devs toss out at them,they are shallow and focus on looks and bloodshed frist.
OMG if you want blood shed try BLOOD its still my number 1 fav FPS it has the dark theme the wisecracking madman a ton of fun weapons and fun game paly.

GTA is a sandbox game  based off of voilance and the drugculture its going to sell mostly becuse of thos 2 , its silly its not a MA game the whole hotcoffe thing is so sad its funny...
Do I like GTA no to me its boreing and dumb.

Top 5 fav FPS

1.Blood
2.System Shock 2
3.Unreal Gold
4.CLive BArkers Undieing
5.Dues EX
6.Halo
Other FPS of note
Unreal UT,SHOGO M.A.D,Eleite Force 1-2,Halo,Hexen and heretic 1-2 of corse,Citizen Kabuto,Q2,Q1,Doom,Duke Nukem Seroues sam is ok but tis not in my top ten *L*

Its a shame Monolith went the way of all devs they have become complete corperate whores BLood 2 has to be the worest FPS seaqule to date.....


BTW play many Console only FPSs? Time Spliters  has charm even tho the games are cheap they have that old class FPS charm *L* Darkwatch is pretty good I set it to lefty controls and it reminded me some of turok ^^
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FliX~rb
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Posted: Tuesday, Nov. 15, 2005 02:30 pm
probly my fav "FPS" games of all times

-Systemshock 2
-Thief 2
-Deus Ex
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ZippyDSMLEE~rb
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Posted: Tuesday, Nov. 15, 2005 02:56 pm
3 great games even if I am a loasy thief 0-o
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D'sparil~rb
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Posted: Tuesday, Nov. 15, 2005 04:55 pm
Told you - if we are to discuss new heXen, let's make a topic, I don't feel like talking about that here, but I #### well have enough ideas.
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