I was just wondering why Raven Software is making Quake 4 or helping to make it. ID has always made Quake and i'm a huge fan of the series. I just loved Quake 3 Arena and when i heard Raven was involved in making part 4, iw as kind of shocked. It's not that i hate Raven, it's just that I don't think they can make a game like Quake. I disliked Hexen etc, and the only title i Truly liked was Soldier of Fortune 2 in Multiplayer. This said I don't think SoF 2 can match Quake 3, and so i'm a bit scared of what to expect at this point.

It's the controls, style and skill involved in the Quake series, that make me love it. I hope Raven can pull this off.. but i'm worried.

Raven is making it because JC stated that everyone at id was sick of rehashing their old work and continually creating sequels-And I don't blame them, it's time for them to use their imaginations and creat something unique after all these years.

Also I expect it to be quite different from Q3-obviously since it's following the story from Q2 and will be primarily focused on SP. Not that they stated there will or won't be a MP component-I just don't think anyone should be hoping for the next big MP game from id.

They will most very likely be doing that themselves after Doom III.

^^ correct, ID says that D3 will be the last sequel they make for a long time.

Well honestly the keys are great gameplay, great physics, great netcode, allowing a great number of people to play with/against each other online.  I think that boils down to John Carmack writing the game engine, as long as he's involved in coding the core game it will be great.

Its the quality gameplay that draws us back to quake, at least for me I don't necessarily need a sequel to quake, but a great iD MP would be very welcome.

Yeah, since the Quake name really has no bearing on what the game is actually about, id could make a game and name it: War Hamster: Claws of Death and make it good .

Dang I hear that WH:COD game rocks  When's it coming out?

And an internet legend is born.

I like Raven, I think they make great games. However they have a very bad track record with support. ST:EF 2 and SOF 2 have bugs and they were not patched. SOF 2 had some really bad bugs and people still demaind a patch but Raven ignores them. Now Jedi Academy is having the same issues.

ID Software has supported Quake 3 as recently as the 1.32 patch.

I'm very concerned that Raven will not support Quake 4 as well as ID Software did with Quake 3.  

for starters raven didn't make EF2 that's made by ritual.
yes there are massive problems with that game, and one's that won't be fixed by a patch. most of them aren't bugs per se but rather choices made by the development team.

as for JA there are probs with the game but this is not the place to discusss them. nor SOF2.