Hitman was a cool stealth game as well.

I was wondering if anyone would mention Hitman! It was a bit buggy but it is the BEST game that I have ever played...no morals required at all!

I've always loved stealth games, like Thief, but I always wished that somewhere along the line I could sneak around with a silenced pistol and pop people in the head as opposed to clubbing them with my black jack! So far, SOF2 and Hitman are the only games that come close to fulfilling my sociopathic stealth ninja needs...

The trouble with SOF2 is that it is nearly impossible to carry out a good stealth mission without being caught! My claim to fame is that I managed to do the first stage of Kamchata without setting off any alarms on Consultant mode but it required lots of loading up. The guards behave oddly as well. If you break wind then you will set off every alarm in the place. If you shoot someone from a distance with your Socom silenced then they won't even notice that they are being riddled with holes.

In that respect I suppose that its good that the guns can't be silenced but it would be kewl if someone released a mod/patch that allowed you to have silenced M4s, Sniper rifles etc.

Action

stealth, often times i can get to the flag/briefcase without being seen or heard, makes the trip back that much easier since i havn't wasted any ammo.

the partulary disspointing part in my eyes is in finca1 where you can alow a security cammara to spot you, setting of the alarm, and wait for a respoce from the ai only to find that they dont care and no mater how long you stand in view of the cammara no one is going to come to get you.

What I really want is to see a game where:

1)You've got a small but finite time in which to kill/KO lone enemy soldiers during which they can't alert their buddies. The length of this period is a slightly more interesting difficulty variable than how much damage they take and give, in my mighty opinion.

2)Enemies don't have wallhack. In SoF2, as soon as you've been rumbled, every NPC seems to know exactly where you are, even when there's no way they realistically could. Deus Ex was good for this. If you buggered off sharpish, they'd have to reaquire you, so you could go back to being Ninja Guy.

3)They don't forget that there's an intruder around and go back to their previous sweeps after two minutes. Deus Ex was bad for this. You'd have thought a sinister global conspiracy would vet its henchmen for having Memento-style amnesia.
Once you've been detected, the NPC's not on specific guard duties should start poking around in every dark corner of the level, ready to be whacked in the back of the head by the alert player, but the nemesis of the dopey one.

4)The amount and type of gear you have affects the noise you make. My spider-sense tells me that a belt-fed machinegun, a chainsaw and a couple of rocket launchers are going to be a real biscuit eater to sneak about with compared to a sock filled with wet sand.

5)Camofluage actually exists. Dressing like Angel may be good for furtive movement in the dark, but should the level be set in snow, it'll take on a certain chocolate-teapot style usefulness.

6)Background noise matters, for the simple common sense reason that....well...it does. Plus, it'd put the wiggins on you to be merrily stomping around some noisy industrial thingmy, only to have them switch it off upon finding a comrade's body