First I would like to thank modsonline for doing what you guys do!You have been very helpfull getting me started in mapping! The problem I have is lighting.No matter what I do,its bright,even inside buildings.I have scoured the forums and searched and searched,watched tutorials and read tutorials.I think I am missing something in my setup,(Shader images?)but I cant figure it out.When I texture the skybox it turns red and black,and when I test the clouds and everything show up fine.But its still bright!I made a small,quick map in hopes that you could help!Heres my compile...

C:\Program Files\Call of Duty\uo\maps\mp>"C:\Program Files\Call of Duty\uoTools\
bin\q3map" -v -game uo "C:\Program Files\Call of Duty\uo\maps\mp\test"
Q3Map v1.2 (c) 2003 Id Software Inc. / Infinity Ward / GMI Studios
---- q3map ----
verbose = true
2 threads
qdir: C:\Program Files\Call of Duty\
gamedir: C:/Program Files/Call of Duty/uo/
----- FS_Startup -----
Current search path:
C:/Program Files/Call of Duty/\uo\vehicles.pk3 (7 files)
C:/Program Files/Call of Duty/\uo\uomappack00.pk3 (143 files)
C:/Program Files/Call of Duty/\uo\pakuo07.pk3 (157 files)
C:/Program Files/Call of Duty/\uo\pakuo06.pk3 (12 files)
C:/Program Files/Call of Duty/\uo\pakuo05.pk3 (3 files)
C:/Program Files/Call of Duty/\uo\pakuo04.pk3 (7646 files)
C:/Program Files/Call of Duty/\uo\pakuo03.pk3 (2275 files)
C:/Program Files/Call of Duty/\uo\pakuo02.pk3 (790 files)
C:/Program Files/Call of Duty/\uo\pakuo01.pk3 (1657 files)
C:/Program Files/Call of Duty/\uo\pakuo00.pk3 (6233 files)
C:/Program Files/Call of Duty//uo
C:/Program Files/Call of Duty//Call of Duty
C:/Program Files/Call of Duty/\main\pakb.pk3 (60 files)
C:/Program Files/Call of Duty/\main\paka.pk3 (41 files)
C:/Program Files/Call of Duty/\main\pak9.pk3 (149 files)
C:/Program Files/Call of Duty/\main\pak8.pk3 (235 files)
C:/Program Files/Call of Duty/\main\pak6.pk3 (3 files)
C:/Program Files/Call of Duty/\main\pak5.pk3 (4858 files)
C:/Program Files/Call of Duty/\main\pak4.pk3 (1668 files)
C:/Program Files/Call of Duty/\main\pak3.pk3 (1992 files)
C:/Program Files/Call of Duty/\main\pak2.pk3 (694 files)
C:/Program Files/Call of Duty/\main\pak1.pk3 (2642 files)
C:/Program Files/Call of Duty/\main\pak0.pk3 (12816 files)
C:/Program Files/Call of Duty//main
C:/Program Files/Call of Duty/\uo\localized_english_pakuo02.pk3 (12 files)
C:/Program Files/Call of Duty/\uo\localized_english_pakuo01.pk3 (37 files)
C:/Program Files/Call of Duty/\uo\localized_english_pakuo00.pk3 (2578 files)
C:/Program Files/Call of Duty/\main\localized_english_pak5.pk3 (46 files)
C:/Program Files/Call of Duty/\main\localized_english_pak3.pk3 (7 files)
C:/Program Files/Call of Duty/\main\localized_english_pak2.pk3 (9 files)
C:/Program Files/Call of Duty/\main\localized_english_pak1.pk3 (3736 files)
C:/Program Files/Call of Duty/\main\localized_english_pak0.pk3 (1204 files)

File Handles:
----------------------
51710 files in pk3 files
967 shaderInfo
--- LoadMapFile ---
Loading map file C:\Program Files\Call of Duty\uo\maps\mp\test.map
WARNING: Couldn't find image for shader textures/sky/mp_depot
Entity 0, Brush 11: mixed face contents
Entity 0, Brush 12: mixed face contents
Entity 0, Brush 13: mixed face contents
Entity 0, Brush 14: mixed face contents
Entity 2, Brush 0: mixed face contents
17 total world brushes
1 detail brushes
2 patches
20 boxbevels
12 edgebevels
5 entities
108 planes
0 areaportals
size: -229, -228, -25 to 276, 235, 319
############### model 0 ###############
----- PatchMapDrawSurfs -----
--- FaceBSP ---
102 faces
110 leafs
----- MakeTreePortals -----
0 tiny portals
----- FilterStructuralBrushesIntoTree -----
17 structural brushes
42 cluster references
--- FloodEntities ---
32 flooded leafs
--- FillOutside ---
42 solid leafs
36 leafs filled
32 inside leafs
----- ClipSidesIntoTree -----
--- FaceBSP ---
45 faces
77 leafs
----- MakeTreePortals -----
0 tiny portals
----- FilterStructuralBrushesIntoTree -----
17 structural brushes
74 cluster references
----- Building Portals and Cells -----
1 unique cells
--- NumberClusters ---
26 visclusters
53 visportals
119 solidfaces
--- WritePortalFile ---
writing C:\Program Files\Call of Duty\uo\maps\mp\test.prt
--- FloodAreas ---
1 areas
----- FilterDetailBrushesIntoTree -----
0 detail brushes
0 cluster references
----- SubdivideDrawSurfs -----
----- MergeSides -----
0 siderefs
----- FixTJunctions -----
53 axial edge lines
2 non-axial edge lines
0 degenerate edges
55 edge lines of 131072
22 verts added for tjunctions
164 total verts
27 naturally ordered
8 rotated orders
0 can't order
--- AllocateLightmaps ---
6 unique shaders
5 actual shaders
3170 exact lightmap texels
262144 block lightmap texels
1.21% lightmap efficiency
finding triangle windings...
merging into concave windings...
added 0 points for thin polygons (0.0% more points)
fixing t-junctions...
finding index mapping and snapping vertices...
triangulating all windings...
0 self-tjunctions fixed
0 degenerate tris removed
simplifying triangles...
2 tris simplified away (0.8%)
emitting triangles...
0 vertices couldn't be merged because the textures point different ways
----- FilterCollisionSurfsIntoTree -----
--- EndModel ---
Writing C:\Program Files\Call of Duty\uo\maps\mp\test.bsp
2 seconds elapsed

C:\Program Files\Call of Duty\uo\maps\mp>pause
Press any key to continue . . .

I think I might be missing the shaders?I dont know where or which pk3 they might be in...
Thanks in advance for all you guys do,and sorry for such a nube question...

edited on Sep. 30, 2006 09:11 pm by majgas

There isn't any problem with your shaders or compile process. When you place a light, just press n to pull up the entities box, and in the key spot, type "light" (without the quotes) and in the value box, type in any number you want for the brightness of the light (the default is 300, far too bright in most situations)

Thanks Trigonous,but thats not it.I had tried adding lights,and with different values,but it looks the same either way.Heres a screenshot...


Thats inside a room with no windows!
Heres a screenshot outside the same room...


edited on Sep. 30, 2006 10:09 pm by majgas

Hmmm... How are you doing your external lighting? Placing a light or editing the worldspawn values?

I'm actualy kinda stumped on this one

Your log output is only showing the first stage of bsp creation, there is still 2 more stages (vis data) and (flare light stage) to go.
In the flare stage you will get info on the world ambient settings and sunlight values etc etc. See if you can get those values.

A simple way the add world light and ambient settings is to load your .map file into and editor and look at the lines right up the top of the data, there should be worldspawn info there.

Here is one example from the map: Mp_Dawnville :

"northyaw" "90"
"_color" ".75 .84 1"
"ambient" ".18"
"sunlight" "2"
"suncolor" "1 .73 .42"
"sundirection" "-24 150 0"
"sundiffusecolor" ".75 .84 1"
"diffusefraction" "0.35"
"classname" "worldspawn"

Grassy

Sorry Grassy,I think I coppied before the last operation.Heres the full log..

C:\Program Files\Call of Duty\uo\maps\mp>"C:\Program Files\Call of Duty\uoTools\
bin\q3map" -v -game uo "C:\Program Files\Call of Duty\uo\maps\mp\test"
Q3Map v1.2 (c) 2003 Id Software Inc. / Infinity Ward / GMI Studios
---- q3map ----
verbose = true
2 threads
qdir: C:\Program Files\Call of Duty\
gamedir: C:/Program Files/Call of Duty/uo/
----- FS_Startup -----
Current search path:
C:/Program Files/Call of Duty/\uo\vehicles.pk3 (7 files)
C:/Program Files/Call of Duty/\uo\uomappack00.pk3 (143 files)
C:/Program Files/Call of Duty/\uo\pakuo07.pk3 (157 files)
C:/Program Files/Call of Duty/\uo\pakuo06.pk3 (12 files)
C:/Program Files/Call of Duty/\uo\pakuo05.pk3 (3 files)
C:/Program Files/Call of Duty/\uo\pakuo04.pk3 (7646 files)
C:/Program Files/Call of Duty/\uo\pakuo03.pk3 (2275 files)
C:/Program Files/Call of Duty/\uo\pakuo02.pk3 (790 files)
C:/Program Files/Call of Duty/\uo\pakuo01.pk3 (1657 files)
C:/Program Files/Call of Duty/\uo\pakuo00.pk3 (6233 files)
C:/Program Files/Call of Duty//uo
C:/Program Files/Call of Duty//Call of Duty
C:/Program Files/Call of Duty/\main\pakb.pk3 (60 files)
C:/Program Files/Call of Duty/\main\paka.pk3 (41 files)
C:/Program Files/Call of Duty/\main\pak9.pk3 (149 files)
C:/Program Files/Call of Duty/\main\pak8.pk3 (235 files)
C:/Program Files/Call of Duty/\main\pak6.pk3 (3 files)
C:/Program Files/Call of Duty/\main\pak5.pk3 (4858 files)
C:/Program Files/Call of Duty/\main\pak4.pk3 (1668 files)
C:/Program Files/Call of Duty/\main\pak3.pk3 (1992 files)
C:/Program Files/Call of Duty/\main\pak2.pk3 (694 files)
C:/Program Files/Call of Duty/\main\pak1.pk3 (2642 files)
C:/Program Files/Call of Duty/\main\pak0.pk3 (12816 files)
C:/Program Files/Call of Duty//main
C:/Program Files/Call of Duty/\uo\localized_english_pakuo02.pk3 (12 files)
C:/Program Files/Call of Duty/\uo\localized_english_pakuo01.pk3 (37 files)
C:/Program Files/Call of Duty/\uo\localized_english_pakuo00.pk3 (2578 files)
C:/Program Files/Call of Duty/\main\localized_english_pak5.pk3 (46 files)
C:/Program Files/Call of Duty/\main\localized_english_pak3.pk3 (7 files)
C:/Program Files/Call of Duty/\main\localized_english_pak2.pk3 (9 files)
C:/Program Files/Call of Duty/\main\localized_english_pak1.pk3 (3736 files)
C:/Program Files/Call of Duty/\main\localized_english_pak0.pk3 (1204 files)

File Handles:
----------------------
51710 files in pk3 files
967 shaderInfo
--- LoadMapFile ---
Loading map file C:\Program Files\Call of Duty\uo\maps\mp\test.map
WARNING: Couldn't find image for shader textures/sky/mp_depot
Entity 0, Brush 11: mixed face contents
Entity 0, Brush 12: mixed face contents
Entity 0, Brush 14: mixed face contents
Entity 0, Brush 15: mixed face contents
Entity 2, Brush 0: mixed face contents
18 total world brushes
1 detail brushes
2 patches
20 boxbevels
12 edgebevels
5 entities
108 planes
0 areaportals
size: -229, -228, -25 to 276, 235, 319
############### model 0 ###############
----- PatchMapDrawSurfs -----
--- FaceBSP ---
108 faces
112 leafs
----- MakeTreePortals -----
0 tiny portals
----- FilterStructuralBrushesIntoTree -----
18 structural brushes
44 cluster references
--- FloodEntities ---
32 flooded leafs
--- FillOutside ---
44 solid leafs
36 leafs filled
32 inside leafs
----- ClipSidesIntoTree -----
--- FaceBSP ---
43 faces
72 leafs
----- MakeTreePortals -----
0 tiny portals
----- FilterStructuralBrushesIntoTree -----
18 structural brushes
74 cluster references
----- Building Portals and Cells -----
1 unique cells
--- NumberClusters ---
24 visclusters
47 visportals
105 solidfaces
--- WritePortalFile ---
writing C:\Program Files\Call of Duty\uo\maps\mp\test.prt
--- FloodAreas ---
1 areas
----- FilterDetailBrushesIntoTree -----
0 detail brushes
0 cluster references
----- SubdivideDrawSurfs -----
----- MergeSides -----
0 siderefs
----- FixTJunctions -----
49 axial edge lines
2 non-axial edge lines
0 degenerate edges
51 edge lines of 131072
22 verts added for tjunctions
156 total verts
25 naturally ordered
8 rotated orders
0 can't order
--- AllocateLightmaps ---
6 unique shaders
5 actual shaders
3090 exact lightmap texels
262144 block lightmap texels
1.18% lightmap efficiency
finding triangle windings...
merging into concave windings...
added 0 points for thin polygons (0.0% more points)
fixing t-junctions...
finding index mapping and snapping vertices...
triangulating all windings...
0 self-tjunctions fixed
0 degenerate tris removed
simplifying triangles...
0 tris simplified away (0.0%)
emitting triangles...
0 vertices couldn't be merged because the textures point different ways
----- FilterCollisionSurfsIntoTree -----
--- EndModel ---
Writing C:\Program Files\Call of Duty\uo\maps\mp\test.bsp
2 seconds elapsed

C:\Program Files\Call of Duty\uo\maps\mp>pause
Press any key to continue . . .

C:\Program Files\Call of Duty\uo\maps\mp>"C:\Program Files\Call of Duty\uoTools\
bin\q3map" -vis -fast -game uo "C:\Program Files\Call of Duty\uo\maps\mp\test"

Q3Map v1.2 (c) 2003 Id Software Inc. / Infinity Ward / GMI Studios
---- vis ----
fastvis = true
----- FS_Startup -----
Current search path:
C:/Program Files/Call of Duty/\uo\vehicles.pk3 (7 files)
C:/Program Files/Call of Duty/\uo\uomappack00.pk3 (143 files)
C:/Program Files/Call of Duty/\uo\pakuo07.pk3 (157 files)
C:/Program Files/Call of Duty/\uo\pakuo06.pk3 (12 files)
C:/Program Files/Call of Duty/\uo\pakuo05.pk3 (3 files)
C:/Program Files/Call of Duty/\uo\pakuo04.pk3 (7646 files)
C:/Program Files/Call of Duty/\uo\pakuo03.pk3 (2275 files)
C:/Program Files/Call of Duty/\uo\pakuo02.pk3 (790 files)
C:/Program Files/Call of Duty/\uo\pakuo01.pk3 (1657 files)
C:/Program Files/Call of Duty/\uo\pakuo00.pk3 (6233 files)
C:/Program Files/Call of Duty//uo
C:/Program Files/Call of Duty//Call of Duty
C:/Program Files/Call of Duty/\main\pakb.pk3 (60 files)
C:/Program Files/Call of Duty/\main\paka.pk3 (41 files)
C:/Program Files/Call of Duty/\main\pak9.pk3 (149 files)
C:/Program Files/Call of Duty/\main\pak8.pk3 (235 files)
C:/Program Files/Call of Duty/\main\pak6.pk3 (3 files)
C:/Program Files/Call of Duty/\main\pak5.pk3 (4858 files)
C:/Program Files/Call of Duty/\main\pak4.pk3 (1668 files)
C:/Program Files/Call of Duty/\main\pak3.pk3 (1992 files)
C:/Program Files/Call of Duty/\main\pak2.pk3 (694 files)
C:/Program Files/Call of Duty/\main\pak1.pk3 (2642 files)
C:/Program Files/Call of Duty/\main\pak0.pk3 (12816 files)
C:/Program Files/Call of Duty//main
C:/Program Files/Call of Duty/\uo\localized_english_pakuo02.pk3 (12 files)
C:/Program Files/Call of Duty/\uo\localized_english_pakuo01.pk3 (37 files)
C:/Program Files/Call of Duty/\uo\localized_english_pakuo00.pk3 (2578 files)
C:/Program Files/Call of Duty/\main\localized_english_pak5.pk3 (46 files)
C:/Program Files/Call of Duty/\main\localized_english_pak3.pk3 (7 files)
C:/Program Files/Call of Duty/\main\localized_english_pak2.pk3 (9 files)
C:/Program Files/Call of Duty/\main\localized_english_pak1.pk3 (3736 files)
C:/Program Files/Call of Duty/\main\localized_english_pak0.pk3 (1204 files)

File Handles:
----------------------
51710 files in pk3 files
reading C:\Program Files\Call of Duty\uo\maps\mp\test.bsp
reading C:\Program Files\Call of Duty\uo\maps\mp\test.prt
24 portalclusters
47 numportals
105 numfaces
94 active portals
0 hint portals
visdatasize:200
0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9... (0)
creating leaf vis...
Average clusters visible: 14
writing C:\Program Files\Call of Duty\uo\maps\mp\test.bsp
2.00 seconds elapsed

C:\Program Files\Call of Duty\uo\maps\mp>copy /Y "C:\Program Files\Call of Duty\
uo\maps\mp\test.bsp" "C:\Program Files\game\uo\maps\mp\test.bsp"
The system cannot find the path specified.
0 file(s) copied.

C:\Program Files\Call of Duty\uo\maps\mp>copy /Y "C:\Program Files\Call of Duty\
uo\maps\mp\test.prt" "C:\Program Files\game\uo\maps\mp\test.prt"
The system cannot find the path specified.
0 file(s) copied.

C:\Program Files\Call of Duty\uo\maps\mp>"C:\Program Files\Call of Duty\uoTools\
bin\flare" -fast -game uo "C:\Program Files\game\uo\maps\mp\test"
----- FS_Startup -----
Current search path:
C:/Program Files/game/\uo\pakuo07.pk3 (157 files)
C:/Program Files/game/\uo\pakuo06.pk3 (12 files)
C:/Program Files/game/\uo\pakuo05.pk3 (3 files)
C:/Program Files/game/\uo\pakuo04.pk3 (7646 files)
C:/Program Files/game/\uo\pakuo03.pk3 (2275 files)
C:/Program Files/game/\uo\pakuo02.pk3 (790 files)
C:/Program Files/game/\uo\pakuo01.pk3 (1657 files)
C:/Program Files/game/\uo\pakuo00.pk3 (6233 files)
C:/Program Files/game//uo
C:/Program Files/game//main
C:/Program Files/game/\uo\localized_english_pakuo02.pk3 (12 files)
C:/Program Files/game/\uo\localized_english_pakuo01.pk3 (37 files)
C:/Program Files/game/\uo\localized_english_pakuo00.pk3 (2578 files)

File Handles:
----------------------
21400 files in pk3 files
Could not load file 'C:\Program Files\game\uo\maps\mp\test.bsp'

C:\Program Files\Call of Duty\uo\maps\mp>copy /Y "C:\Program Files\game\uo\maps\
mp\test.bsp" "C:\Program Files\Call of Duty\uo\maps\mp\test.bsp"
The system cannot find the path specified.

C:\Program Files\Call of Duty\uo\maps\mp>copy /Y "C:\Program Files\game\uo\maps\
mp\test.prt" "C:\Program Files\Call of Duty\uo\maps\mp\test.prt"
The system cannot find the path specified.

C:\Program Files\Call of Duty\uo\maps\mp>pause
Press any key to continue . . .

I checked the map file like you mentioned and my worldsawn values are there,I used the ones found here for mp_depot.I am baffled!
Thanks for helping Grassy!

There is your problem, flare is not working and adding light values to your bsp.

If you are using the utility to compile your maps then make sure you do the Flare workaround option. The problem is Flare has a hardcoded path in it to look for files located in "C:\Program Files\game\uo\maps"

Grassy

That did the trick!Thank you very,very much Grassy!You guys rock!I had tried two ways,one was following jdawgs tutorial using a bat file,and the other with coduomaker.I changed the flare under the options menu in coduomaker and it worked!Thanks again guys!

No probs, glad you got it working. Now we expect to see some great maps from you in the near future!
Grassy