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Author Topic: Wtf is wrong the developers?
Validuz~rb
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Posted: Wednesday, Nov. 23, 2005 01:22 pm
*Edit*  I know someone will say this, so let me clarify:
I know EXACTLY how the current filter option works.  It does NOT allow you to do something like this:
Pings 150 or >: off
Dedicated only: on
Punk-Buster Enabled only: on
Gametype only:  CTF
Non-Passworded only:  on
etc.

Now back to the original post...

You guys "fixed" the server browser locking up, but where's the OFF switch for empty servers?  Where's some type of UP filtering (BY A SPECIFIC #)?  Where's the option to view only CERTAIN types of gametypes?

We don't need four super-over-sized buttons that say "Get New List", etc.  Use that wasted space for some MUCH-needed options.  We need some ####ing toggleable switches that allow us to turn off the viewing of empty servers, high pinging servers (normally foreign or dial-up, which I DON'T want to play on), allow gametype specific searching, only view PB-enabled servers, only view dedicated servers, and only view non-passworded servers.

I mean seriously.  Are you guys even gamers, or do you just double-click the icon on the desktop and join the first server you see.  This is 2005, not 1990.  Quake3 and Tribes2 had better ####ing server-browsing options than this.  And yes, I know how the current "filter" works, but it's limited to the fact that it DOESN'T remember your settings, it shows empty and high-pinging servers, and I don't like ALL the gametypes showing.

Im current attending a game-developing school, but I could've pulled a better server-browser out of my ass, then this crap you've given us.  I tell ya what... for Quake5, let me take care of the browser;  I'll even do it for free just so the rest of us can have decent options next time around.

p.s.  The new Tourney mode is great, especially with simultaneous duels.  However, waiting if you lose the first match for 10+ minutes, is idiotic.  You would've THOUGHT that maybe you'd allow the "eliminated" to duel each other, so they don't have to sit there and twiddle their fingers for the next 10 minutes.
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Validuz~rb
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Posted: Wednesday, Nov. 23, 2005 01:45 pm
On a side note... the game is too ####ing dark, and the player models suck.  In fact, if the ugly-ass Sarge model could be ported over from Q3, it'd be better than any of the Q4 models, especially the "slimy transfers".  It's like you guys spent ZERO time on MP, and focused solely (for the most part) on SP.  All of the models look like they were just copied out of SP.   Where's our "force model" option?  Is it really that hard to code? (no)


Also, the maps are too #### confined.  Every room and hallway feels like I'm claustrophobic.  Q3DM17 is a prime example of this.  Every "pad" (section) you can land on, feels as if it was half the size (width) of the Q3 version.
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cusTom3~rb
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Posted: Wednesday, Nov. 23, 2005 05:06 pm
perhaps you haven't taken the "prioritizing features for deadlines" class at school yet?  :p
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Validuz~rb
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Posted: Wednesday, Nov. 23, 2005 05:21 pm
Quote (cusTom3 @ Nov. 23 2005, 11:06 am)
perhaps you haven't taken the "prioritizing features for deadlines" class at school yet?  :p

"Prioritize"..?  Prioritize what exactly?  The horrible performance on most systems?  The super-low player cap?  The lack of new gameplay (e.g. some type of new gametype involving vehicles)?  The lack of effort put into something as simple as a browser with toggle options?  The horrendous "cramped" feeling you get when you play on the "redone" maps?

Are you trying to say that that it was RUSHED by the publisher???  Are you ####ing kidding me?  It's Quake.  It's big enough, that it can wait.  Either way, pushing the blame off on "deadlines" is bullshit.  Too much time was WASTED on SP.
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ZippyDSMLEE~rb
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Posted: Wednesday, Nov. 23, 2005 05:57 pm
Validuz
LOL
TO much tiem wasted on SP? what are you smokeing? basic lvl design poor weapon design,bearly par AI WTF?!?!!?!?! Q3 has a better SP side than this.... this game was made for the 360 the PC version is the public beta test end of story.
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Validuz~rb
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Posted: Wednesday, Nov. 23, 2005 06:21 pm
Quote (ZippyDSMLEE @ Nov. 23 2005, 11:57 am)
Validuz
LOL
TO much tiem wasted on SP? what are you smokeing? basic lvl design poor weapon design,bearly par AI WTF?!?!!?!?! Q3 has a better SP side than this.... this game was made for the 360 the PC version is the public beta test end of story.

Another horrible, bullshit excuse.  If they made an announcement statng that the PC version was just going to be a beta test for the 360, I sure as #### wouldn't have bought it.  Besides, I really doubt that they expect a FPS to be really popular on a console anyway (unless SP is great like Halo).  They released this game just like all the other Quakes, with the intention of having another great game in the series.. except this one failed.
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cusTom3~rb
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Posted: Wednesday, Nov. 23, 2005 06:48 pm
Quote (Validuz @ Nov. 23 2005, 7:22 am)
Im current attending a game-developing school, but I could've pulled a better server-browser out of my ass, then this crap you've given us.  I tell ya what... for Quake5, let me take care of the browser;  I'll even do it for free just so the rest of us can have decent options next time around.

you don't need to wait for quake 5. do it for quake 4.

seeing as how you can pull it out of your ass i am sure you know where the sdk is and how to get started.

cant wait to see it. or are you just all talk?
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ZippyDSMLEE~rb
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Posted: Wednesday, Nov. 23, 2005 09:18 pm
Validuz
well take alook at red faction 2 it was made for the console in mind,same for Dues EX 2, Halo is a FPS exception the devs take time and amke a good game the prob is MS want let them put out a desent PC version becuse it would effect Xbox sales....but I digress,the PC is a dieing market mabye becuse thats where the smart gamers that dont take crap are some pll might whine about PC gamers are eleitist I disagre to a point PC gamers have played alot of games and know what is good and what is bad its the devs that cant handle it,the console market are like lambs to the slaghter....they dont know what is good or not..look at Perfect dark for the 360 the game its mroe a off shoot of  P-D and gamespot has lapped it up and gave it a 9+ 0-o

Quake 4 is 6.6 for the 360 (its not even finished yet) and 8.0 for the PC... whitch do you think is the correct score....

Half life got a 9.3 but it still feels more like a 8.5 weapon caps and it feels like its missing weapons and all....but then they are paid for thier reviews....I always knock a point or 2 off when main stream reviwers review something....the whole industry is just messed up and its not gettign better....
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Validuz~rb
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Posted: Thursday, Nov. 24, 2005 07:12 pm
Okay Zippy, seriously... you need to go back to 8th grade Literature/English, because trying to decipher and comprehend your posts is almost impossible.  In fact, don't even post anymore, because nothing you've said is a good enough reason as to why the devs/ID completely #### on the Quake series like Q4 has.
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ZippyDSMLEE~rb
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Posted: Friday, Nov. 25, 2005 04:44 pm
Validuz
I have problems with grammer and written langage...its not to ahrd to udnerstand what I say if pll would slow down and read my posts but some cant seem to ahndle it very well.

Im my last post I used red faction 2 and dues ex 2 as a exsample of devs focusing on the consoles frist becuse the console gamer is a bit more forgveing than half of the PC gamers.

Perfect Dark 360 is nothign like the N64 game its just a gun and run for the most part...

Game spot gave the 360 version of Q4 a 6.6 thats the kind of score the PC version should have got but it got a 8 ,At the time I tohught Q4 was not out yet ,they may have still gotten a prerelase so they could review it.

I am tryign to work on my grammer issues at your post is not flameing me like they do on gamesport most of the time :P
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