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foyleman
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Posted: Sunday, Apr. 5, 2009 10:15 pm
I did a VERY quick run of parts and realized you can absolutely do what you want within your budget and still have plenty of time to grow. I didn't check prices around the net, I just got these details from NewEgg. I also did not confirm 100% compatibility with these parts, although they should all work together.

Since you said your Uncle was going to be doing the work, I just wanted to offer you some quick details. What should still be done is to:
- check the reliability of the motherboard.
- confirm the memory meets the motherboard manufacturers recommendations (recently an important thing to do)
- I chose to go with the more reliable Windows XP until Windows 7 is released.
- look for cheaper parts such as the dvd drive which can be found slightly cheaper.
- find a case you might like better. That's a matter of taste.
- also a matter of taste is the keyboard and mouse. I trust logitech AND NOT MICROSOFT for these parts.

SAMSUNG 22X DVD±R DVD Burner with LightScribe Black SATA Model SH-S223Q
$25.99

Antec Three Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
$54.95

Western Digital Caviar Black WD1001FALS 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive
$109.99

XFX GX260NADFF GeForce GTX 260 Core 216 896MB 448-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card
$209.99

CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply
$124.99

Logitech 920-000021 Black USB Standard Access Keyboard 600
$24.99

Logitech MX518 8 Buttons 1 x Wheel USB or PS/2 Wired Optical Gaming-Grade Mouse
$39.99

Kingston 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1066 (PC3 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model KVR1066D3K2/4GR
$61.99

GIGABYTE GA-EX58-UD3R-SLI LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX Intel Motherboard
$209.99

Intel Core i7 920 Nehalem 2.66GHz LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Processor Model BX80601920
$288.99

Microsoft Windows XP Professional SP3 for System Builders
$139.98

Grand Total:* $1,291.84

Again this is a rough guide and needs to be followed up with additional research.
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Posted: Saturday, Apr. 11, 2009 12:35 am
thx a whole lot!!!!!
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Posted: Wednesday, Apr. 15, 2009 07:34 pm
Sorry if this is a bit long of a post but this is what my uncle replied.
It might actually help some of you out and his email is tarascio@gmail.com just tell him you are Adrians friend from the modsonline forums. You can ask him basically anything about computers but dont abuse him plz! lol but heres wat he repllied to me...


The first thing you need to do is come up with a budget - how much money you have to spend is going to totally control your project, no matter what kind of project it is.

There are SO many different computer parts available, at so many prices, that there's no way to sort it out until you know how much money you have to spend.

You can build a Super-PC that costs a fortune, but it is just as fun to build a super-cheap or a super-small Mini-ITX PC.

You can buy a case for $50 and a motherboard for $50. Or, you can spend $500 on each if you want. There's a huge range.

So, the first step is deciding how much money you have, and then putting a number next to each item on this list, or deciding where you are going to get it if you are not going to buy it:

* Case + Power Supply (usually come together, but not always). About $50 on sale.

IMPORTANT: You have to decide on a Form Factor first. This is the size of the case. It determines what kind of motherboard you can fit in the case. The common sizes these days are:

1. ATX - the oldest, largest, most common standard. ATX cases are big enough to hold the most powerful motherboards

2. Micro ATX - a medium size case that has become more popular lately.

3. Mini-ITX - the newest, ultra-small, ultra-low-power size. I think they're pretty cool, even if they're not the most powerful systems. Plus, smaller + less power usually means cheaper to build.

So, learn about the three form factors ATX, Micro-ATX and Mini-ITX, and pick one that you will base your "build" on.

* Motherboard. There are hundreds of these, at every price from $39 to over $1,000. This must be the same size as your case. Good brands are Asus, Supermicro, MSI, Gigabyte, FIC, etc. IMPORTANT: this part MUST work with (or "support" in computer jargon) the CPU (main processor) that you buy. The RAM chips you buy must also be the right kind and speed to work with the motherboard and CPU you have. Sometimes, it is easier and cheaper to buy a "bundle" deal on all three (motherboard + CPU + RAM) together. I've seen deals like that for $130 or so.

* RAM (don't need if you buy a motherboard bundle). Your RAM must be matched to the motherboard and CPU speed. The current popular type is DDR2, and there are a few different speeds. As long as the speed you buy is equal to or faster than your CPU, you're OK.

* CPU (don't need if you buy a motherboard bundle). Your CPU must be supported by (in other words, work with) your motherboard, and you must have the proper cooler for your CPU if it does not come with one (they usually do). Even older CPUs are fast enough to work well.

* Video card. Sometimes this is built right on the motherboard, but most get plugged in to a PCI Express slot reserved for the video card. Can be cheap or VERY expensive. If building a cheap computer, it's obviously better to have this built-in to the motherboard.

* Hard drive. Pretty cheap these days, especially for a "small" one, but even the "small" ones are very big! These have "form factors" too, just make sure your case can fit the size hard drive. The two main sizes are 3.5 inch (normal) or 2.5 inch (laptop). This is a good thing to ask around for, sometimes you can get an old one that still works, for free.

* Monitor. Not too cheap, but maybe you can ask around for a used one someone doesn't want.

* CD drive for booting & installing software. A cheap one is probably $25. Another good used item, if not too beat up.

* Operating system. Vista is very expensive, and a real hog of everything. XP is only sold with certain new computers now, and nobody can sell it (except on e-bay) after next month. Best bet is to get XP for cheap somewhere, perhaps "grey market," or use a free os like Ubuntu.

If you go with Ubuntu, you should make sure the peripherals (video card, motherboard, etc.) work well with it. In other words, you have to be more careful that the motherboard, disks, audio and USB will work OK with Linuxes like Ubuntu.

The big benefits to using a free operating system is:

1. You'll learn a lot about how serious computers (the ones that need to run for years without crashing) work. Windows can't run for years without crashing.

2. They're free, so there are a lot of great free programs for them.

3. You can do everything you can do with Windows, except play all the Windows games, which if you want to surf the net, email and learn, who cares.
4.

* Keyboard, mouse. Cheap, but still cost $, so you have to put these in the budget, too!

Anyway, that's a place to start. Make that list, and write some numbers in it. Maybe you can ask for some of the parts you need as presents, or ask for money and save for the things you need.
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Posted: Wednesday, Apr. 15, 2009 07:55 pm
Pretty much what we stated except for the OS. We assume you posted in these forums because you love games... playing them and modding them. If that's the case, you need to go with a Windows OS.

If you are a student and can prove it with a student ID, you may be in luck for an OS... Windows 7. It is expected to be much better than Windows Vista and I'm even using it right now.

How to get Windows 7 legally at a discount or free (Students Only)
05:17 PM EDT - Apr,14 2009
http://www.techamok.com/?pid=6147

Neowin has some hints on how to legally get Windows 7 at a discount or even for free when the final version is ready later this year:

1. Between June 26, 2009 and January 31, 2010, any new computer purchased with Windows Vista will qualify for a free upgrade to Windows 7. So if you've been planning on purchasing a new PC in the near future, you should hold off just a little while longer.

2. Check and see if your school is with the MSDNAA or Microsoft Developers Network Academic Alliance. If they are, check with their specific MSDNAA site when the final version of Windows 7 comes out to see if they distribute it.

3. Check with Microsoft DreamSpark. This is a special site from Microsoft that gives out free software to people who have a valid e-mail address from any of the qualifying schools listed. It's possible they could put Windows 7 up there once it's released.

4. If you're in the US, Canada or Europe, and are in school, there's a site called Journey Ed that gives out software and other kinds of products at a discount. You just need to show them some kind of proof.

Otherwise get your hands on Windows XP. What are you using now? Perhaps you want to use your current OS on your new PC INSTEAD of the old PC.
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Posted: Monday, Apr. 20, 2009 06:12 pm
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If your operating system is XP then stick with 2gig of DDR2 ram. It using Vista then go for 4gig of DDR2. I would suggest DDR3 but it is still a bit pricey if you are trying to keep costs down and still end up with a quality rig.[RGN]

The advice on amount of RAM there isn't quite accurate: if you're using a 32-bit version of XP OR Vista, there's no point getting 4Gb of RAM as the OS can't see it all (getting technical: a 32-bit OS can address up to 4Gb, but that includes all of the memory in the system - RAM, graphics memory, caches on the CPU, memory on disk drives, etc.)

On the other hand 4Gb of RAM with a 64-bit version of XP (or Vista) isn't a problem - although, of course, you also have to have a 64-bit processor (which most of them are these days).

Also, whether to install DDR2 or DDR3 really depends on the type of motherboard you have (most only take one type), which in turn depends on which processor you choose.
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