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Author Topic: Dual Core and Dell 5150
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Posted: Monday, Nov. 5, 2007 07:58 pm
Ok this may be a bit confusing for a lot of you but here is the story which I found on another forum

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The Dimension 5150 has a 945G chipset which supports the Dual core 820 -840 CPU. When you install it, you get the Unsupported CPU message in screen, BUT no error Beep code. This leads me to believe that it is a BIOS that was programed to not allow Dual Core Chips instead of a chipset issue.


I contacted Dell a while ago and they said it isn't supported well after looking on the Intel site it is supported but like the above it says the BIOS will not allow it because Dell Programed it that way, is there anyway to bypass this?
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Posted: Monday, Nov. 5, 2007 08:19 pm
It's possible they have their own bios. You could try overwriting it with a bios from a company you suspect is the actual manufacturer if you want. Watch out that you don't kill the board. I did that once years ago with a bad bios upgrade.

Regarding the beep code, are you sure the PC speaker is attached or even present in the machine?

In the end, take this as a lesson learned. Those prefab computers just aren't meant to be changed. Stay away from Dell, Gateway, etc. and build your own. You can also go to your local computer shop and have them build you one (real computer shop, not compusa or something chain-like). You might find out the price for doing this is lower than you expected.
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Posted: Monday, Nov. 5, 2007 08:56 pm
That quote was from another forum not me, there was also a reply saying that it worked for somebody else using Dells BIOS but he just got an error everytime, its really annoying because i don't really want to buy a new rig, but I could build one myself, one time this week Foyle do you think you could help me find some decent stuff on ebuyer, I already have a Graphics card and 2gig memory just need a new motherboard ect
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Posted: Monday, Nov. 5, 2007 09:23 pm
what's the graphics card (agp/pci/pcie) and what type of memory(6400, 2700, ?)? Then I can help.

Do you have a dvd/cd drive, hard drive, or anything else?
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Posted: Tuesday, Nov. 6, 2007 04:41 pm
Its an Asus Extreme N7600GS SILENT/HTD GeForce 7600 GS 512MB PCI-E DVI/VGA Graphics Card, I have a 80GIG HD at the moment and its really really loud and I need more space(preferably silent and 250gig), I also have a External 250gig HD which is also full, i have just bought for my Dell PC, 2 x Crucial 1GB DDR2 533MHz / PC2- 4200 Unbuffered Non ECC. I guess that will still do for the new one, also I have a DVD Player & DVD Writer. I will need a new Motherboard and I want to try and get a Case with Fan controls or Water Cooling, since my room is in the attic aka Loft Conversion it gets really hot. I also have 2 Monitors, Whats the difference with Core Duo and Core 2 Duo? Is the second one a Quadcore, but anyway I need at least a Core Duo that's suited for gaming and running Virtual PC's with VMWare

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Posted: Tuesday, Nov. 6, 2007 05:26 pm
no problem. I can do this. How much you got to spend? Give me a ceiling (max amount) and I'll give you a unit. It's gonna take me longer thought since this is in a currency I am not used to. lol.
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Posted: Tuesday, Nov. 6, 2007 05:42 pm
I'm not to sure to be honest, I'll be getting at least £200($400) for Christmas plus I have £700($1400) in my bank, but I don't really want to take too much out of my Bank, I'll look on Ebuyer and see some price ranges and give you an exact figure.
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Posted: Tuesday, Nov. 6, 2007 06:20 pm
It looks like I'm quite short of cash so I hope you could build a rig for a max of $400, I'm not to great on prices but I'm guessing a Motherboard is about $150 and a Core Duo about $120 and also a case with Fans could cost quite a bit
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Posted: Tuesday, Nov. 6, 2007 07:07 pm
- Asus P5N E SLI 650i Socket 775 PCI E Onboard Audio ATX Motherboard £65.99 Inc. VAT
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/125082

Supposed to work with your existing memory (1333/1066/533 MHz).

- Intel Pentium D 925 3GHz Socket 775 800MHz FSB OEM Processor £45.00 Inc. VAT
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/132295

Pentium D is the older of dual cores. But, it comes with higher speeds for a great price. You can upgrade later. See if you can confirm from the seller this is indeed dual core as it is supposed to be.

- Western Digital WD2500AAKS Caviar SE 250GB 7200RPM SATAII 300 £47.75 VAT
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/124733

Cases are a matter of taste I have found so I can't pick that. Hopefully you have a power supply because while you have $69 (£34) to work with which is enough for a case, it might not be enough for a power supply too.
As for water cooling... not enough money here.

Core 2 is cool, but you won't get the speed. I recommend sticking with pentium D until the speed picks up. Crysis suggests a cpu with 3.0 Ghz (right? I think so). You'll still get dual core. Four cores are a waste for gamers.

Run the above list past a friend for verification. But I think it's good. This was a lot tougher than I thought due to the limitations of ebuyer and the conversion of money. hehe.
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Posted: Tuesday, Nov. 6, 2007 08:33 pm
I'll see if the D is a dual core and what sort of wattage will I need for power supply and Thanks
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