http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3329413,00.html

http://www.jpost.com/servlet....howFull

summary:  French troops under the UN flag are trying to enforce the ceasefire between Isreal and lebanon.

France is upset that Isreal keeps breaking the cease fire;
Isreal says 'get ####ed.  we're defending ourselves'

so France warns Isreal:
any more 'fly-bys' over lebannon will be seen as a violation of UN res.1701;
Isreal says 'get ####ed.  we're not going to stop'

--> so France authorizes their UN troops to fire on IAF jets




and thats where we're at right now.

       *makes popcorn*

Must be antisemitism. Antisemitism is, after all, the only reason anyone could possibly disagree with the Israeli government.

(Sarcasm, if anyone didn't get it.)

France and the UN are push over's and they won't fire.

In the very unlikely case they did I would have no problem with Israel firing back.

Why is it, exactly, that if, say, North Korea ignores UN resolutions, they're a "rouge nation", but other countries can ignore them when they're inconvenient?

Honestly that whole region needs to grow up.  Country A hates country B because 1000 years ago the people of Country A were killed by Country B or some other nonsense.  ####, half of it is just "We want our land back even though half of it is just a desert anyway".  Honestly it's been done, just let it be and try to coexist.  Blowing each other off the map won't help either one of you.

Quote (Captain Seavey @ Nov. 25 2006, 12:10 am)

Why is it, exactly, that if, say, North Korea ignores UN resolutions, they're a "rouge nation", but other countries can ignore them when they're inconvenient?

Because the other countries that have do, usually have nuclear weapons or something else the US or someone needs. Saudi Arabia is a big violator of human rights, for example, the US needs the oil though so they take a blind eye. (Oil money funds terrorism in a way, so I guess the SUV drivers aren't really "American" after all). North Korea has nothing anyone wants, therefor they can be beat up upon. NK has nukes though so they won't get invaded.

@Lord Dave it's not as simple as you think. They are not fighting over land it is a religious war. In order to even begin to understand it you have to know the Bible and/or the Koran. The Muslim extremists want everyone that is a Jew/Christian/None Muslim dead. Yes that means they want you and me dead. They believe that the soon they kill us the sooner there God will come. Have you herd some of the things the Iranian leader has said to his people? (It is the exact opposite of what he said to the UN) After all he is the puppet master in all of this AKA the next Hitler. The world as we see it today is the same as it was in 1939 on the brink of world war 3 except this time they will have nukes and they will use them (They found traces of plutonium in Iran so they will get them soon).  North Korea is the least of our poblems.

The world is about to get a very nasty wakeup call after all Armageddon is knocking on the door.

And I am not the only nut job saying it this guy Glenn Beck has a TV show on CNN where he talks about it Monday through Friday. [Warning: He is a conservative just like I am]

Going back to the main point of the article, thank you, Cobalt, for so clearly skipping over the fact that that same UN force is supposed to be helping the Lebanese army disarm Hezbollah.  Since UNIFIL and the Lebanese army have not only done nothing to disarm Hezbollah, but have also done nothing to stop the rearming of Hezbollah (now boasting upwards of 20,000 rockets, even more than before the war this past summer).  No, not every resolution passed against Israel is anti-Semitic.  But when it's a resolution condemning Israel for something that other nations or organizations are doing ten times worse, while the other nations or organizations are left completely unscathed, that's the issue.

Rapture: I am familiar with both the Christian Bible and the Koran plus several key elements of Judaism and Buddhism.  Peace is fairly well taught in all religions.  It's the extremest and the extremest only that take it up to that level and they can ONLY take it up to that level when they have something to support them.  An injustice that is either imaginary or thousands of years old usually does the trick.  As you made the analogy to WW2, the German people were easily swayed into believing that the Jews were responsible for their suffering (instead of the League of Nations) and as a result everyone rallied around the extremest because he promised a better way/retribution/revenge.  Yes, history is repeating itself as it often does.  Everyone has their own personal agenda and goes behind everyone else's back.  But remember this because it's very importiant:
People fight the enemies of their leaders.

@Gal.   I've always wondered how the jewish people can justify their "occupation" of other countries after what happened to them in WW2.  
(note:my family also lived under nazi occupation in WW2.  its was nasty.  indeed.)

but I've come to understand that the jewish people justify what they are doing to others, because of what happened to them in WW2:  "two wrongs make a right"

thanks for clearing that up.