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Author Topic: Weird Al - White & Nerdy
Wheezle~rb
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Posted: Sunday, Sep. 24, 2006 08:18 am
The fact is 99.9% of guys who DO all the stuff he goes on about in the song ARE white.

But whatever. You wouldn't complain if it was a black guy making fun of himself would you? That wouldn't fit in with the apparent horrible mistreatment of whites in today's society
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Cobalt60~rb
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Posted: Sunday, Sep. 24, 2006 08:23 am
maybe I'm just biased.   I'll never forgive him for "Eat it".  :;):

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You wouldn't complain if it was a black guy making fun of himself would you?


depends on how its done. Chappelle was a genius. (weird al.. not so much) :p
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Posted: Sunday, Sep. 24, 2006 09:05 pm
Quote (Lord Dave @ Sep. 24 2006, 9:09 pm)
Wow cobalt, your really taking it seriously.

Far too seriously.

Weird Al is white and nerdy, he made a song about a white and nerdy guy. It's no big deal, really.

Not every song has a deep and meaningful intent, especially songs by the likes of Weird Al. For the most part he's a non-serious artist who makes music that people laugh at or finds irony in.

I very much doubt that people are going to hear this song and take it as some sort of representation of a whole race. :old11:
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LightningBoy~rb
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Posted: Sunday, Sep. 24, 2006 11:34 pm
Quote (Wheezle @ Sep. 24 2006, 3:18 am)
That wouldn't fit in with the apparent horrible mistreatment of whites in today's society

You may think that statement to be sarcastic, but it shouldn't be.

If I wrote a song about the moronic behavior of black gangster thugs, what would you think? What are you thinking that I said it?
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Wheezle~rb
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Posted: Monday, Sep. 25, 2006 01:03 am
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If I wrote a song about the moronic behavior of black gangster thugs, what would you think? What are you thinking that I said it?

You're not black though. Read the rest of my last post.
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LightningBoy~rb
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Posted: Monday, Sep. 25, 2006 01:46 am
So what. I don't have the right to deliver legitimate criticisms of others?
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Wheezle~rb
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Posted: Monday, Sep. 25, 2006 07:35 am
You are perfectly within your rights to do so. Won't stop people from accusing you of being racist etc. The point is, whatever race can make fun of their own without too many people batting an eyelid. When you start targetting different races, it becomes more sensitive. It's not exclusive to whites bashing themselves.
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Cobalt60~rb
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Posted: Monday, Sep. 25, 2006 02:26 pm
like I said the offspring had a song where they make fun of their own race, as well.
but the offspring song uses Race as a dividing line to define what is "cool"; wierd al uses Race to define what is "uncool"
one is a positive message about blacks and one is a negative message about whites.  
one is construcive, the other is destructive.

its not JUST about white people bashing themselves (which is unhealthy to begin with);  
its the way its done that makes it offensive (or not as the case may be).


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Chappelle was a genius. (weird al.. not so much) :p


see what I did there?   its an entirely different post* if I come straight out and said "Weird Al Sucks Ass" (but the message is basically the same).  

* it would also be.. offensive.    

* some might consider it.. a "personal attack" (etc.)
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Cobalt60~rb
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Posted: Tuesday, Sep. 26, 2006 02:03 am
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if you want to leave it as "I don't like Wierd Al's music" then say so.

I don't like Wierd Al's music comedy :p
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Wheezle~rb
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Posted: Tuesday, Sep. 26, 2006 02:37 am
I think the problem goes deeper than that. I think you need to sort out the problem at the source.

Michael Jackson :p
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