Yeah, that makes sense for the position to be hereditary rather than elected.
in this industry anyway.

Quote (Gal Dukat @ May 15 2006, 8:06 am)

Why does nobody trust Wiki?  It's not as if new games are still coming out with the Q3 engine that might not be on that list I posted.

That`s funny, cos I don`t see the Elite Force expansion pack on that list, so that`s one already, strange seeing as how the Q3 expansion is included  

Quote (Jenny Chen @ May 15 2006, 6:03 am)

I call DOOM III "king" simply because he's the descendent of the original DOOM who was really the "King" in that time. That's how a King is made. It doesn't mean DOOM III has the best engine.

Ah but jenny, in a nation as fast changing as gaming, a king could have a civil war on his hands.  In the realm of gamming engines, the war has been going on for years.  Quake 3 reigned supreme for many years after the death of Doom.  Now the two major powers, Source and Doom III are fighting for supremecy.

Quote (Lord Dave @ May 15 2006, 5:21 pm)

Quote (Jenny Chen @ May 15 2006, 6:03 am) I call DOOM III "king" simply because he's the descendent of the original DOOM who was really the "King" in that time. That's how a King is made. It doesn't mean DOOM III has the best engine.   Ah but jenny, in a nation as fast changing as gaming, a king could have a civil war on his hands.  In the realm of gamming engines, the war has been going on for years.  Quake 3 reigned supreme for many years after the death of Doom.  Now the two major powers, Source and Doom III are fighting for supremecy.

That's exactly what I meant to say. The next year is the 15th anniversary of the FPS kingdom. I'm now writing an article about its history. In terms of the relationship between games, It's much easier to assume the kingdom supreme power to be hereditary rather than elected.

Quote (SteMot @ May 15 2006, 1:48 am)

007 Nightfire didn`t use the Quake 3 engine, it used a modified Half Life engine.

wich means its Q2 engine  

Quote (Lord Dave @ May 15 2006, 7:43 pm)

I always saw it as a war myself.  A war between cousins fighting over the throne.

The FPS kingdom has a long history of civil war in my opinion too, but not exactly consins fighting for throne. I'd rather say it's a "factions fighting for the power to knight lords" war, with consins fighting for throne type envolved in it.

For instance: in the later years of DOOM's reign, Duke Nukem became the first rebel lord. During Quake's reign, Hexen II, one of the few brothers of Quake, wanted to topple the king somehow. When Quake II tried to make more lords of his own faction (SIN, Heretic II, Daikatana, Kingpin, SOF), Unreal became the first real competitive power not by fighting for the throne directly, but by organizing his cousins into his faction.

So, when Quake III and UT both were busy expanding their factions, Half-Life got more lords into his brotherhood almost secretly......

This is pretty much like the history of China between 770BC to 256 BC.

Quote (FliX @ May 16 2006, 6:13 am)

Quote (SteMot @ May 15 2006, 1:48 am) 007 Nightfire didn`t use the Quake 3 engine, it used a modified Half Life engine. wich means its Q2 engine

If your gonna get technical, that would be the Q1 engine, look it up  

Tremulous is online only, aliens vs humans. Came across this in the somethingawful forums. I tried it out but wasn't my cup of tea.

Tremulous started as a mod, but when q3 went gpl they decided to make it a standalone game.