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Author Topic: Switch Madness
BorgKiller~rb
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Posted: Monday, Dec. 5, 2005 12:39 am
When I came into work this morning, I noticed that the network was acting slow. Apon thurther inspecition, I noticed that the network was being DoS attacked to all computers on the network.  I looked around and I noticed that all the switches were blinking all lights at the same time, which i though was odd.

I looked around and found one switch which was blinking randomly, with all lights on and off randomly. "What the h***" I thought and then unplugged it. Suddenly, the network restablised. I plugged it back it, became unstable again. It was a surecom switch which was causing the problem.

I didnt think it was possible for a switch to DoS attack a network. It wasnt on the main line to the servers, it was on one of the arms. Eg:

Servers ----------MAIN LINE----------------------------
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                              Switch
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                  Bad Switch   switch (These computers were being affected also)

Its weird if u ask me. What weird experiences with switches have u had?
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Corran Horn~rb
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Posted: Monday, Dec. 5, 2005 02:11 am
Well, the obvious thought is that a host or network that's hanging off of a node on that switch was causing the disruption.
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George W Carver~rb
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Posted: Monday, Dec. 5, 2005 02:40 am
Sometimes you have to cut off and arm to save the body :;):
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Luke~rb
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Posted: Monday, Dec. 5, 2005 02:40 am
poetic at best
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Lord Dave~rb
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Posted: Monday, Dec. 5, 2005 02:59 am
Meh, if the software for the box got corrupted or overwritten it could easily send out random signals without knowing what to actually send.
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BorgKiller~rb
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Posted: Monday, Dec. 5, 2005 03:32 am
Hmm, you learn something new everyday
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CptCox~rb
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Posted: Monday, Dec. 5, 2005 03:50 am
D**m Ciscos
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Corridale~rb
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Posted: Monday, Dec. 5, 2005 04:46 am
That is pritty weird
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BorgKiller~rb
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Posted: Monday, Dec. 5, 2005 06:37 am
Imagine my surprise after looking all over the network for over an hour
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mabman~rb
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Posted: Monday, Dec. 5, 2005 07:32 am
Are you sure it was the switch (eg, swapping out just the switch fixed the problem)?

I had similar symptoms at a company I used to work at that was a Managed Service Provider (eg, we used VLANs on the switches to segregate file/print and Internet access, and thus provided service to multiple customers in one building).  At some point, everyone in one building would complain of slow Internet access, and 9/10 times it would turn out to be either someone got infected with a worm/trojan, or some idiot left Kazaa running wide open and people were leeching stuff full-throttle (some customers paid for no firewall so I couldn't just filter it out).  We weren't really running a proper network monitoring solution, and these were just layer 2 switches, nothing fancy, so finding the offender consisted of me telneting into the individual switches (when i could connect to them at all) and staring at the frame sent/received rates for each port until I spotted which port was doing an abnormal amount of traffic, and then disable it and see if it helped.  Tedious, but effective.

However, it is not unknown for a network device to "freak out" and start spewing packets for no reason - look up "network chattering".

What would be most useful in these situations is to have some sort of network monitor/intrusion detection system running *internally* - eg, plug a hub between your firewall and your first switch, and plug the monitor/IDS into that, and trap the majority of traffic that way (and set alarms, etc.).  I did some brief investigation, and it looked like Snort could do what I wanted it to, but the company didn't want to change the status quo at the time, so I dropped it.  But then they went bankrupt, so revenge is mine!!
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