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Author Topic: So who is to blame?
ZippyDSMLEE~rb
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Posted: Sunday, Nov. 27, 2005 11:09 pm
Spookmineer
ha ha ha ha.....

Ryo..Ohki
SO your saying that it dose not matter that you cant return a game within 14 days becuse the game is not fun or not worth the 50$$+ you paid for not a reason to downlaod games?
I have bought one to many 40+ $$ games that have turned out to be  crap in the frist or 2nd day. and you can't get a refund becuse you have opened the game.
So yes I do have a point I think,Is riping games the best ideal no.
Altho I'd say 70% of thos that downlaod dont buy whitch is a shame but a fact.
If the more retailer let you return a game within under 15 days for at least store credit.
I am focusieng on buying used and knowing my return poilciies more.
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Spookmineer~rb
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Posted: Monday, Nov. 28, 2005 12:12 am
Quote (ZippyDSMLEE @ Nov. 27 2005, 5:09 pm)
Spookmineer
ha ha ha ha.....

Is that your complete reply....? wow...
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Battery~rb
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Posted: Monday, Nov. 28, 2005 12:46 am
If I remember correctly, like Bestbuy or Compusa, the usual places I purchase PC games or perhaps Xbox games.. once you buy it, it's yours.  You cannot return the game to refund your money.  You cannot return the game for another of equal price.  

However, if the game is defective, then you can return it for another copy.  That is what I remember when I was unhappy with an Xbox game.  I did find another place that would buy the game from me or credit towards another purchase of another used/new game.

That is why there are places that allow you to rent console games before you buy.  But for PC games, I don't see or recall that happening.  Because of copy right law is why they have purchase policy on software for a PC/Mac.  That is where demo's come in.

If you download games for purchase, that's a different story, since they have a different policy.  More then likely, I don't see a site refunding your money once you download their software, regardless if you think the game or software you downloaded sucks with in 1 or 2 days.
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CheapAlert~rb
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Posted: Monday, Nov. 28, 2005 01:05 am
Quote (ZippyDSMLEE @ Nov. 14 2005, 7:52 pm)
Ouch *L* ya GL Hexex 2 was hobbled togather you had to command line res settigns and such they never did fix that out of 2 updates?
Heretic 2 was never a big enough game to get the updates it needed I think they hobbled togather a FPS more for it sicne it was a 3rd person game at the time 3rd person was the fad...mmmmm it seems RAVEN has a recorded of quicky patch  and run 0-o

It was rather risky to have dynamic resolution changing under OpenGL concerning how many early 3d cards aren't 100% GL compliant then. It's primitive because the hardware is. (Riva 128, PowerVR PCX2, Voodoo Graphics)
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ZippyDSMLEE~rb
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Posted: Monday, Nov. 28, 2005 01:52 am
CheapAlert

still around that time there were other games that had it?
other wise I wuld remmber haveing to command line res settings,altho it was not that bad but it felt hobbled togather becuse of it.

Spookmineer
Sorry I was lucky to hobble togather a sentance for Ryo..Ohki  *L*
Yes I espect them to take do refunds up to 20 or less days.
MMORPG games are a bit diffrent you should ahve to pay 10 for them to refresh the key for them but it will never happen becuse they dont like pll returning things just becuse you dont like them,and DEVs are makeign les and less demos avabile becuse of either time resctrions or to skipp showing the public a game is less than par....thats why I say Downlaoding is a desent method to boyycot,altho the trouble with downlaoding is that it has to many pll that dont care about buyign a game if its good or not but the industry dosent care about sellign good games or makeing it easy to get a refund,I rmember EB blacking listing some pll for to many returns in the 16bit days,there is such a thing as to much but to have a no refund poicliy is dumb.
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NightHawk0021~rb
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Posted: Monday, Nov. 28, 2005 03:26 am
[Just read 1st post nothing else]  Americans = Lazy. Even though I am american.... its true.
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CheapAlert~rb
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Posted: Monday, Nov. 28, 2005 05:54 am
Quote (ZippyDSMLEE @ Nov. 27 2005, 7:52 pm)
CheapAlert

still around that time there were other games that had it?
other wise I wuld remmber haveing to command line res settings,altho it was not that bad but it felt hobbled togather becuse of it.

Only a few Direct3D games had it, like Terracide, Jedi Knight, etc. Remember, it's REALLY a pain for OpenGL to switch resolution while it's already running. Especially back then, it'd take too long to destroy and recreate the GL display context while the application is still running in memory. If you don't do that, you'll wind up with corrupt mesh data in memory. This is true even in more recent games like MDK2 which is OpenGL and uses dynamic resolution switching (yeah it's rather funny to switch the res only to find that dr. fluke hawkins now has a planet for a head and a foot for a toaster).
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wolf359~rb
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Posted: Monday, Nov. 28, 2005 08:26 am
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Downlaoding is a desent method to boyycot,altho the trouble with downlaoding is that it has to many pll that dont care about buyign a game if its good or not but the industry dosent care about sellign good games or makeing it easy to get a refund,

i don't care what you think regarding downloading. fact is its ILLEGAL. as such its taboo for these boards. ANY futher infractions will earn you an outright ban.

in fact, coming to a developers official forums and openly commenting that you illegally obtained a game that you're now complaining about is so stupid that you get the ban now.
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