here. try this.. I'm trying to find out why the bots are stopping after a few seconds UNTIL they are fired at or fired nearby at.. boggling me!

http://www.blinkinstudios.com/erics/surefall4.pk3

if it doesn't work as that directory, rename the pk3 to surefall.pk3 (it has the original Surefall in it) and load up surefall4.bsp

actually it looks like I got it fixed  - I used "Force sides invisible" in Q3maptoolz and that seems to have fixed it. So if you want a beta, go for it, now I got to do item placement

Looks cool wwaz ,I like smokey the bear  LOL.

I think the Waterfall is cool and the passages behind the waterfall, but could be smoother less jagged. I like the jetpack at the bottom of the pool and the exploding panel. One Thing I noticed is that the bot Bissman likes to camp on the bottom rock near the water.

George, you were using the original Surefall... pull down the ~ and do "devmap surefall4"

THAT'S the new one.

Thanks for the comments on the waterfall. I actually totally redid it a few days ago (Surefall4) .. I was ASTONISHED last night when I saw the bots doing what I've been doing for a long time - swimming UP the waterfall! Maybe it was the new powerups I put on the ledge up there or maybe it was Q3maptoolz, but I was greatly pleased!

I'm still fixing areas and clipping others off (I found a hole that needs to be patched last night) and adding powerups until I release it.. Thinking of doing a day and night version.

Quote (WWAZman2001 @ June 07 2005, 1:29 pm)

George, you were using the original Surefall... pull down the ~ and do "devmap surefall4" THAT'S the new one. Thanks for the comments on the waterfall. I actually totally redid it a few days ago (Surefall4) .. I was ASTONISHED last night when I saw the bots doing what I've been doing for a long time - swimming UP the waterfall! Maybe it was the new powerups I put on the ledge up there or maybe it was Q3maptoolz, but I was greatly pleased! I'm still fixing areas and clipping others off (I found a hole that needs to be patched last night) and adding powerups until I release it.. Thinking of doing a day and night version.

Like the fire trees, why does some of the trunks for the Neon trees not showup, and in the console I getting "couldn't find a image for the shader levelshots/surefall4.tga". I haven't played a game with bots since last night tho.

Quote (George W Carver @ June 07 2005, 1:35 pm)

Like the fire trees, why does some of the trunks for the Neon trees not showup, and in the console I getting "couldn't find a image for the shader levelshots/surefall4.tga". I haven't played a game with bots since last night tho.

Cause I hadn't made them yet! =)

I deleted them back when I was trying to find what was making the map crash while trying to compile. They're back now. I've got another beta for testing, I need to add some more trees, and I'd like to include a night version but I want to find out how to make normal trees first ... or hovering lights? Not entirely sure yet.

There's a LOT of new stuff since the last update too. Let's just say there's caves aplenty.