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Author Topic: HEXEN on ShockWave
D'sparil~rb
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Posted: Friday, Jul. 1, 2005 05:41 pm
Heretic and HeXeN have a dark, scary, and mysterious athmosphere. They have a number of interesting weapons, and in HeXeN beyond Heretic they had different effects in ranged and melee attacks! The levels had an excellent design, compare to DooM's - DooM's is boring! HeXeN had many riddles that not much could solve at once. HeXeN was unlinear in some places. And enemies were all very different - you had to adapt to them, in HeXeN, you had to use tactics to survive on the highest difficulty level, especially if you are a cleric. And inventory! Where did that brilliant invention dissappear in Heretic II?
 How can you even compare these four best games of all time to Soldier of Fortune?!
 I played a demo of that game. When I she he name, I expected a game with a setting of some gallant army warrior, a sniper maybe, I was reminded of the movie "Enemy at the Gates". And what did I see? Weapons - well they are the same in all war games... But enemies, why do the behave like idiots, why do they look like mercenaries from FarCry, why the heads blow of? Monsters didn't behave like that in HeXeN The Beginning of the End. It is normal for limbs and heads to fall of from monsters, not humans. I don't remember someones head blowing up from a simple shotgun. It looks stupid, it's not even violance. And locations? City, I hate cities. Yes, I'm crazy, because I love mountains, pyramids, catacombs, swamps and other much more colourfull places. And what kind of support Raven needs? If it made a new game, in fantasy, I would have given it all my support. But what should I support? Quake 4? It is on DooM 3 Engine, and lookes like a DooM 3 clone. If they made somethig fantasy on DooM 3 Engine, I would have supported it, I don't care about graphics. But no, the wise raven of the company has died when the Raven of Pathoris has stopped fighting (Corvus means "Raven" in Latin). It's all now, fantasy action is dead, forever.
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FliX~rb
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Posted: Friday, Jul. 1, 2005 10:22 pm
im not trying to play down the classic hexen and heretic games, they are obviously CLASSICS and at the time groundbreaking and revolutionary!

but nowadays they would not be able to hold the "young" audiance on the pc,...

and yea SOF is a straight FPS, and that is exactly what they where trying to do, they didnt say "SOF - the newest in adventure RPG wizadry" they said "SOF - pure FPS"... and for beeing that it was an excelent game!
the damage system was just fun imho, there was something diabolicly hilarious about shooting your enemies to bits... unlike any other game so far!
---- thus revolutionary in a way!

Elite Force was revolutionary as it was the first Star Trek game that was REALY REALY good and attracted alot of not trekkies to the ST franchise. and also EF was a VERY good FPS

if raven came out tomorrow and said it was working on a new hexen or heretic, trust me im sure alot of the people on this board would to frantic out of excitment!

as for Ravens current productions
Quake 4 from what ive seen does NOT necercery look like doom3! the interior levels might, but then its hard to creat inovatinv hallway designs that dont look like alien or other classic movies and games that just gave us the look of a futuristic spacecraft. its just the way we think it looks "realistic"
i would definately not say Q4 is a D3 clone! Raven has allways till now put its own magic at work to make IDs engine that little bit better looking :;):

as for XmenL i cant say as i havnt played the first part, because it was a console only :angry: RPG-in a way game
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D'sparil~rb
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Posted: Saturday, Jul. 2, 2005 12:19 am
Well, the way people are blasted into bits - it was used before, in a game named Turok 2, a very good  game, in fact. And the fact that people don't play games like Hexen and Heretic - I don't think so. Why do they play games like Morrowind then? If something new like that will come out, and if it's made the right way, a lot of people will like it. The problem is, Raven doesn't want to worry itself with such trouble, better take id's game and make a new version...
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FliX~rb
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Posted: Saturday, Jul. 2, 2005 04:56 pm
i meant the actual heretic and hexen, as if any 12 year old school boy would dream of installing a game his dad used to play :old8: especialy when there is CS arround *shudder
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D'sparil~rb
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Posted: Saturday, Jul. 2, 2005 06:12 pm
Well, I am 14. The old HeXeN and Heretic won't survive now, especially people don't like games made on other companies' engines. If a new game would be, Raven is better to make its own engine, people call Heretic a DooM clone with magic, mostly because of the engine.
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FliX~rb
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Posted: Sunday, Jul. 3, 2005 10:13 pm
i dont think the engine has anything to do with how successfull a game is, ive definately never said, urgh its using the Quake3 engine, must suck then,....
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D'sparil~rb
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Posted: Sunday, Jul. 3, 2005 10:23 pm
I don't either. But most teenagers do.
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necromanthus~rb
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Posted: Tuesday, Aug. 16, 2005 07:51 am
OK.
Hexen Reloaded is on the way.
This is my gift for RavenSoft (they did a great job in Quake 4).
Now for FliX and AcidGlow (most of all):
Which is your favorite Hexen map (and why) ?
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necromanthus~rb
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Posted: Tuesday, Aug. 16, 2005 07:52 am
OK.
Hexen Reloaded is on the way.
This is my gift for RavenSoft (they did a great job in Quake 4).
Now for FliX and AcidGlow (most of all):
Which is your favorite Hexen map (and why) ?
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D'sparil~rb
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Posted: Friday, Oct. 7, 2005 10:29 pm
Oh, good question. The map right after the end of the shadow wood hub, the map with fantar song.
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