I couldn't find those games either.
I'd be interested in knowing more about them tho..
..because I never even knew they existed before now.



and I agree with Viacom's response.
Activision is just trying to get out of their contract.
("Boo Hoo")
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The company reportedly planned to produce a game based on Star Trek Nemesis, but said Viacom failed to provide "crucial information" on the film in a timely fashion.

this is the ONLY thing I've read so far that makes me sympathize with Activision's position.
IF Paramount put up a wall of secrecy and security around the plot/script for Nemesis,
and wouldn't let Activision know about changes/developments as they were happenning
then it would be hard to make a game to coincide with the movie.

but thats not even what they are suing about
(so I doubt thats what happened)

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Activision said Viacom has broken the "fundamental promise" of its ten-year license agreement, namely that Viacom would continue to produce Star Trek television series and films which could be used as the basis for computer games.

^^THIS is what they are suing about.
and this unspoken "promise" to continue making TNG movies is complete bullshit.
they HAD to know it would end ,
and eventually there would be a DS9 movie which they would have NO rights to.

and besides they weren't making games to coincide with the movies anyways.
(so what the f#ck do they care?)
(there are 10 different Star Trek games listed on that site linked above,
and only ONE had anything to do with a TV show or a movie.
and it was THIS one)
(so how can they sue on the grounds that there are no more movies to make games after..
..when they weren't even doing it in the first place?)


IMO the whole lawsuit is just a CYA* to explain why they didn't make any money on the franchise.
which, IMO, is their own d@mn fault for releasing such self indulgent StarTrek games.
(and for signing such a crappy liscence deal) (heh)  

IMO they should just accept their losses and STFU.
instead of insulting the fans (and creators) of StarTrek,
just to appease their own shareholders.
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p.s: sorry for the long posts.
I don't mean for all this to sound like an angry rant.

How very odd...I'm 99.9% sure these games were made, but I can't find any records of them.  At any rate, my whole argument for Activision is that it's not their responsibility to be "true" to Star Trek.  They paid good money for the right to use Star Trek characters, locales, and themes in creations of their own.  Viacom's part of the deal was to keep the Star Trek franchise alive for the duration of the contract (10 years), essentially making it worth the $20 million and change that Activision has paid for it.  Basically, Activision was just making sure that they would be able to make use of the licence for the duration of the contract.  If you paid $20 million for the use of something for 10 years, wouldn't you want to make sure that you could use it for that amount of time?  

However, I do understand your point about "buyer beware" so to speak.  I'm sure Activision realized that, eventually, the licence would no longer be supported by fresh content from Viacom.  I'm sure they decided that there would be a limited amount of time where it was Viacom's responsibility to provide new material into the Trek canon.  After this time however, I bet Viacom agreed to provide complete access to any materials that Activision needed for the duration of the licence.

The whole problem that muddles everything for us, the people who don't know the specifics of the contract, is the question of what was garunteed.  Both Activision and Viacom have plenty of money to pay for some top notch lawyers to write out contracts for them.  They aren't going to hire stupid people.  There are no garuntees in the entertainment industry, they know this.  I'm sure there have been stipulations written into the contract to allow for catastrophic failure of a licence.  The whole problem is that Trek is dying a whole lot more slowly than they probably thought.  That's where the problems with the contract stem from...I think.

Anyway, now I'm just confusing myself.

Um...whoever posted above, two posts...

Activision paid for the rights to ALL Star Trek films and TV series..  

It doesn't matter if its TNG or DS9, or Voy, or whatever.  ALL is ALL.

They were trying to make a game based on Nemesis, but Paramount didn't give them the necessary information to do it.

Keyword: Trying....but Viacom didn't do much to help them succeed.

must have been.  because "The Fallen" was released after EF1..
..and it was published by Simon&Schuster Interactive.
(and as far as I know, they STILL hold the rights to DS9 today)

and also, as far as I know, Interplay still holds the rights to TOS.
(which is why Raven couldn't show that constitution-class ship in EF1)

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P.S:
every Star Trek TV series is (legally) considered to be its own seperate franchise.
also the TOS movies were a "series" unto themselves; so were the TNG movies.
(so .. TOS, TNG, VOY, DS9 .. legally these are all seperate corporate entities)
(the rights to each are sold seperately)


Activision only paid for the rights to 'everything-that-wasn't-spoken-for' at the time..
...and at that time, it only included TNG and VOY, and the ongoing movie franchise...
(remember this was BEFORE Enterprise was concieved)
(and Enterprise was created to be a seperate franchise, yet again)
(#### if you remember, they didn't even want it to be CALLED "StarTrek")(LOL)
...so basicaly , Activision bought a lemon*

TNG and VOY are done ;
now the ongoing movie franchise is done.
and NOW if Activision wants any part, of any "future" Trek..
..then they will have to buy the rights.  again.
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*I still say "BOO HOO" ; they knew what they were buying at the time.
its too late now for them to cover their ass, and squirm their way out of the deal
(ie: they screwed themselves) (they should accept it and STFU)

 >sad<

/me shacking head....

constitution class was in the game, or was that a diffrent class ship