i read some where that cuz doom 3 was going have bad multiplayer, quake 4 would be multiplayer... but then i read sumwhere else that quake 4 would be single player orientated... which is it going to be please  

The last information we received (and it's been a while, so it very well could have changed) was that Quake 4 would be a type of continuation of the Quake 2 Single Player experience.
However, no concrete information has been released regarding Q4's multiplayer component, if it will even have one.

Q4 will be based on the D3 engine, so I'd expect most of the engine's core limitations would be carried over as well.

Yes. Last we heard the multiplayer would be set up like that of the original doom games. Everyone who is going to play must all be connected to the server before the game starts.

thats what i thought, but i read in a magazine sumwhere that it would be multiplayer, so i thought it would be best to check.

I suspect Quake4 will have a good multiplayer. And I think Doom3 will have a better then expected multiplayer, but not as good as Q4.

Matt Morton, Activision Producer, said this in reference to the Doom3 engine being bad for multiplayer:

Quote (Matt Morton @ Activision)

In all my days working here at Activision, I have never seen a developer "drop my jaw to the floor" as often as Raven does. i consider myself INCREDIBLY fortunate to have been invloved with them on some great projects. If there is one thing I can say about Raven, it is "Prepare to be amazed". They are the miracle workers EVERY publisher wishes they have... we are just lucky enough to actually have them!

Jick Johnson, Lead Quake4 Programmer, said this about Punkbuster in Quake4:

Quote (rickmus @ Raven Software)

Depends upon our evaluation on how effective PB was with SoF2.

Now why would you but PB in a singleplayer game? Or an LAN only, 4 player max, multiplayer game?

So I would say Q4 will definently have MP, and it may be a very good MP.

-xmc

about the multiplayer...

John Carmack evalute that the engine of Doom3 will be able to support around only 4 players on the multiplayer... i hope he is joking.... because Quake4 use the engine of Doom3.... Raven can modify the engine but... there is probably a limit.

However, Ravensoftware is a great company they know what they do ( i hope )

maybe its only 4 player max with all the bells and whistles going on the game. I know Raven always said how SoF2 was toned down (dramatically) for Mp for the reason that the netcode would not be able to handle it. I really don't care if the bump mapping isn't as good in MP as SP or anything else. I just want a decent MP with real dynamic lighting and I think Q4/D3 is the best place I can think for that to start!

Bad multiplayer may be an exaggeration. Doom 3 will have its main focus on Singleplayer - as will Quake 4 - but it'll still have regular mp included. That might mean that it'll reuse the Q3A mp code, which does not necessarily mean lousy mp - just nothing revolutionary.

As I already said, Quake 4 will be another sp experience according to the official info. Personally, I think that's good. I'm getting really tired of all those braindead mp games with no immersion factor in them - it's time to take a break from that.

My humble suggestion is that you play Q3A if you want MP only.

Any shooter that doesnt have a Multi Player aspect should not even be released.

Single player shooter games are ok for about 7 days, then you move to MP, or you shelve the game.

I wouldn't care if all shooters came out in the future with NO single player aspect at all.  Multiplayer Play online is what keeps games alive.