I'd like to remind some of you who post here to attend the meeting which will take place on IRC @ quakenet in channel #sof2.meeting on saturday 18th JAN 2003, up until then many people can voice their opinions at channel #sof2.campaign.   i'd like to see all european clans visiting and some USA clans if possible. the meeting will start at 20GMT (UK time) and will end when we have come to a conclusion.

The subjects which will be covered are displayed at http://www.gamingeye.com/temp/personal/anubis/sof2c.txt

If you want to attend the meeting please do this:

1. Read the document.
2. Discuss it within your clan
3. Send one person from the clan to speak on the meeting. (the others are very welcome to be in the channel, though it will be moderated. PM me or Kudos if you want to talk.)
4. Hopefully we agree on the points so we can get it rollin'.

#Sof2.Campaign and #Sof2.Meeting

and some other ones which arent mentioned will also be talked about.

We are not trying to change the game too much and people shouldnt be scared. We've waited for Raven to help and understand that they are busy. All we ask off them is a SOF2 TV if possible and maybe a couple of other things

i shall update this thread when further news arises.

btw if you are planning on coming and are in a sof2 clan, please have an internal meeting in your clan discussing the issues so when the meeting starts, you will have your clans views instead of 9 seperate people.

lets work together to make a better sof2!

maybe should you post the same thread on the SoF2 forums over at http://www.jolt.co.uk and http://www.barrysworld.com

GL with it

IMO SoF2 needs more players making things move than acts from Raven at this point (ie: websites, LANs, modders).

SUGGESTIONS WHAT SHOULD BE CHANGED IN SOF2: INF, Serious gameplay
PM sCa|AnubiS if you want something else on this list.

1. usas with more recoil and slower
2. headshot = deadshot
3. buying system
4. mp5, sig improved
5. another sig sound
6. more real fire from guns like ak/m4....
7. sniperrifle fix
8. the sig is too weak..
9. BETTER COMMUNITY!
10. Make uzi and m3a1 better!
11. more maps like shop1,finca,jor1
12. only one frag/fire nade
13. MR rules instead of CO
15. less power @ m203
16. better aim while walking in stead of running?
17. flash being too weak
18. 1 vs 1 maps
19. range on shotty needs decreasing
20. sof2tv
21. clan sites need to be more informative
22. sof2 needs a website for everyone to visit
23. every match to have match bot
24. shoutcast


ahahaha,  alot of this sh!t is gay, omg jus read what you have said, i could cut this list down to 4, jeez

Does this address the bigger picture of SOF2's future?

It's fine to have better gameplay, but you also need new mods and the mod community actively out there out to keep the interest up and provide alternatives.

People want to make mods for SOF2, but for various reasons they have just gave up.

On my list would be:

- Raven should release some better example weapon models, character models for modders. Initial SOF2 mods were held back by the difficulty in creating new models (i.e weapons)... fortunately 45th Platoon has persevered where most gave up.

- More servers running custom gametypes and mods... SOF2 has had Man Down for ages, yet only about 10 - 15 servers are running it. For SOF2's leading mod that isn't that flash. There is little incentive to make custom gametypes or mods if hardly anyone could be bothered running them on servers. There are so many empty servers going to waste that could be used to run some different SOF2 content.

Just my feelings,
Ark

All these suggestions sound like a mod IMO.

You can't change so much in the game through patches, get some guys together and start on a mod.

Besides, this list comes off like a wishlist, most of these changes are not going to be universally accepted and/or appreciated.  If you can get 95% of your player base to aggree on the changes that need to be made, they're not worth including in a patch.  Otherwise the player base is going to fragment into playing different versions and that's going to doom the game entirely.

are maps shipping with ManDown nowadays? last time i checked (been a lil' while ok) it was cool modifications but not much of a stand-alone mod... what i mean is, all this coding work ManDown is doing would be much more pay if part of a whole mod, be it for a Total Conversion or a Q3Threewave style of mod.

ok what some of you have misunderstood...maybe my fault for not pointing out clearly enough is....

the list of ideas uploaded on the site was gathered by me from the public, they are not requests by me. They are topics that need to be argued by clan members which is why im holding the meeting...no point laughing at any of them. just attend the meeting on saturday and state ur points on each of them. it would be nice to see clanleaders etc attending stating whole clans opinions rather than his own.

thank you for your additional ideas for our meeting...i will read them and perhaps add a few.

guys don't diss the meeting, instead of mocking the list add some intelligent ideas of ur own