Everywhere I read about the Shotgun being too powerful.. I thought SoF2 was tend to become a realistic game... so dont tell me you would stand up again after being shot by a shotgun in real life!

Shooting power is perfect now.... skilled people can kill with it with one shot on near distance and less skilled ones can do it in 2-3... and if you call people who kill you guys with shotgun, n00bs or skillled... then it probably is your problem of movement.. learn the tricks how to trick out the SG users, if not... you might be to slow and lazy!

bah!

sometimes I look in my console while I'm floating around as a ghost, and I swear 80% of kills are made with the shotty. The rest is a smattering of the other guns, but the deaths are largely dominated by shotguns. I try to use the uzi or grease but they really are hopeless when you come up against a shotgun. And whats the good of them for ranged attacks, besides which, the only short range primary is the usas, which the pump beats most times anyway   and they reckon the game is balanced..

shotties are all well and good, they are an integral part of sof2, but right now they are too much a part for my liking

That's because 90% of the maps are in shotty range (with a HS) and it's basically a CQB frag fest.

Bigger maps > shotty

something irks me about the shotgun.  i use the biscuit eater, dont get me wrong, but it's a shame it's the only secondary weapon worth a ####.

balance is key i think, echoing spike.  socom to the head = immediate death if realism were the key here...

Spike makes some good points...I too would enjoy another weapon for close quarter battles. And the maps do have a lot to do with your weapon choice.

the issue with the shotty, regardless of what you think of it, is that NOBODY USES ANYTHING ELSE.  In most game situations the shotty kicks ass on PRIMARY weapons, so of course it's gonna rock the other secondaries.

 Realism isn't even a secondary concern in SoF2.  You can climb a ladder and shoot at the same time, gimme a break.  The primary concern is FUN, as it should be.  
 
 Personally, I find a game with solid weapon balance more fun than one with a SuperWeapon that you have to use to be competitive.

- g

On large maps, especially those sniper maps, the shotgun is useless. Then the grease gun is a much better option to choose from. Of course not every gun gets a headshot in this game, we all found out about that. It isn't exactly realistic but who gives a sh!t? The purpose of games is that they entertain you, and I have fun playing SOF2.

If you want total realism then I'd advice you to put a decaying carcass under your desk to also experience the smell of war, and make your own device that you put on your head which will poke a nail through your skull once you get a headshot so you can also experience realistic pain and blood loss. That would make the game a lot more realistic but I doubt you'd enjoy playing it then. A shooting game is never completely realistic unless players would really die when getting fragged, so stop hoping for the perfectly realistic first person shooter.

I've seen people own a shotty user with a Uzi, there's a first time for everything.

I've also been killed by uzi's, not because the weapon is that good, it's just that you shouldnt underestimate it either. Also I don't really know how to deal with uzi users because I hardly ever run into them.