i stop posting for a little while and i come back assulted by idiocy.

1 there is no problem with the shotgun.  if your going for realism you'd need a tighter spread for its pellets.  if your going for game ballance its all ready ballanced.

2 it IS ravens game.  they've said it apears they aren't going to fix the shotty.  Ok fine.  Its up to the modders.  Hence the fix in OSP.  wether or not that fix is used is up to the server and individual players.  And for league's if your going to use it create a new division/league for clans that want to participate useing such and such a mod with such and such settings.

3 how can i say the shotgun is ballanced?  cause i've used it, dont like useing it and use my Uzi of death.  Sure i get beat sometimes, other times your shotty aint going to save you.  If you know how to use the other secondary's with some degree of skill you can take out people with shotty's semi consitantly.  just like the ak you wont see me useing the shotty.  just ask any other a][n member and they'll tell you i love my uzi and dont use the shotty.

as for the 'bloody shotty' comments, sure i make them.  It's kinda agrivateing when you die.  But life moves on and i get called a noob for useing a m203 well and i shrug it off.  If you want to belittle my little bit of skilz go ahead it happens....just remember the gun speaks louder than your typeing and i bet i can scream louder when i die than you

As for osp, I have nothing against mods. BUT alot of players aren't going to use it. Hence, the league play shouldn't be using it unless they start another league with it. The players who play the stock game would be at a disadvantage.

I would love to see the accuacy of the shotty reduced when bunyhopping. But I see the bunnyhopping as more of the problem than the shotty itself. But that's the way the game is and one has to learn to deal with it.

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Yea, when you are shooting a rifle that is MEANT to have pinpoint precission, it does very well. the shotgun has this little feature that in the real world we like to call "spread"
the bullets arent supposed to go the the exact point you are point the shotgun, unles you are point blank. Apparently you have never shot a gun in real life, I suggest you do so before taking up the matter and arguing about it.
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Is this really such a hard concept guys? IT"S A GAME!!!! NOT REAL LIFE!!!! DON'T BASE IT OFF REAL LIFE!!! IN REAL LIFE YOU WOULDN'T BE KILLING 30 PEOPLE JUST TO GET A BRIEFCASE!!!! (hopefully not anyway) SO QUIT SAYING IT'S NOTHING LIKE REAL LIFE, WE KNOW ALREADY AND WE DON'T CARE!!!!!