Currently SOF2 to me makes no sence. Its like its trying to be realistic, but each team member can carry an arsenal of his own. 2 grenades (wtf) an M4 that carrys 2 more nades (big wtf) and a pump shotgun along with a deagle. Try to walk 2 steps without falling over Mullins! How often do any of you run out of ammo? Probly never...

Heres what I suggest to either raven or some talented mod makers:

Add the shotgun to primarys, add dual micro uzis to the primary menu. Loose the grease gun all together. Now give the pistols a makeover and add dual socoms or w/e (make them so you see both hands like you would really be holding the pistol.) Each team mate can carry 1 grenade only, meaning if you get the M4 you only get the m203... either that or make the m203 detatchable, cuz i personally like my m4 w/out it.

(Like it or not theres a lot of bitching and complaining going on pertaining to the weapons in sof2, and I can relate some of the time.)

Very simple suggestion that would increase team gameplay 10 fold. I will probly start a mod like this soon, making headshots deadly ofcourse .

peace

ok an example u might have seen, the film or book blackhawk down.
they had:
m4/m203 with extra ammo and nades
normal nades (not sure on the actual numbers)
handgun (not sure what type)
and some had some sort of anti tank rpg
and most had the full armor plates in place (a few unlucky people never)
they also took extra ammo insted of nightvision (they regreted that )

so what were u saying was unrealistic??

First i saw that movie: And They all only had 1 assault weapon besides pistols.. so I fail to see your point. They did not have M4, M203, 12 GAUGE, 2 NADES, and a pistol. Besides the fact that Black Hawk Down is in a completely different scenario, along with the fact that its a movie.

If you have ever been to the army you would see the infantry training. These guys carry heavy weapons, and mostly explosives. These are not the guys you send in to an urban location to clear areas of terrorists... DUH.

nuff said, and thats besides the point. Without secondarys and less nades it would force more team work, because you would be more dependant on someone with a shotgun to clear short range areas and you would need to protect your snipers as well. It would cause more team awareness basically instead of this mindless run throw nade, run throw nade, run m203, run m203, run shotun shotgun etc.

--Peace

less C4 plz...

rofl.. Now I know why people say SOF2 is where CS rejects go. Seriously you are basing opinions on BHD? No offence, but that movie was terrible... Go read a Tom Clancy novel if you want realism. And I dont play on pubs... I play in matches, and I can easily take out an entire team on a pub.. Not a challenge. Im trying to drive SOF2 away from nade spam, and blatent non-taktical team play... However you are all such experts on the subject since you have seen Delta Force, and Black Hawk Down.

Just think about it for a second ffs, and stop trying to proove some lame point that is not even conclusive to the argument... Pistols are in the game, yet you never use them because they are so weak. The shotgun overpowers all secondary weapons, and some primarys... But this is cool, because the shotgun takes so much skill to use at all ranges =\. And its always fun to spend the first 5 minutes beeing blue on finca waiting at the back waiting for 30 nades to stop coming through the doors every 2 seconds. Im not complaining about "n00bs" or about the weapons. Im complaining about the way the games play out... It gets very boring after a couple months, and SoF2 is just not an addicting game.

del you are right and wrong, BHD imo was a great movie, and Tom Clancy if i remember correctly is Fiction, BHD the book is facts...but  you are some what right about the arsenal. BUT in vietnam (my dad was in it) he had to carry a ruck sack that weighed over 50 pounds. On top of his M-16A1 (ugh), Shotgun, and his m1911a1. And his frags. So my friend....gather the facts

im curious....who else beside you is complaining?

I feel the weapon balence is better than most games and the only complaints ive seen have been about specific "uber" weapons, not about carying to many guns.

Havent heard one complainant about shotguns available as a secondary weapon.  Not in any of the servers that Ive played.

Are any of you addicted to SoF2? Is it all you can think about... Basically is there any motivation to make you want to be better at the game?

No matter how good you are in sof2 you have to deal with an overwhelming amount of frag and flame nades. Not to mention the m203 on the m4 (not bashing because I only use the M4, but not for the m203s.)

Another reason for those suggestions would be to focus more on PISTOLS. I know im not alone on this.. When I play urt/cs I really like using those pistols. SoF2s pistols are weak, and just dont cut it.

And the thing I see the most in pubs is others flaming "n00bs" for using the m203, and long range shotgun... And as I dont like to complain in games.. I do agree that the shotgun is BS in the secondary menu, and the m203 really doesnt take much brains to use, and is another non-skill required weapon.

Adding the shotgun to the primary menu would truely balance the game out, unlike what some of you are claiming.. Because the grease gun isnt even in the same league as the 12 gauge. Don't bother toning it down, and nerfing the guns. IMHO I am feeling the mandown mod more than sof2 right now so nerfing guns is just idiotic.

And finally some of you must think that I hate sof2 and I am some n00b complaining about how I suck, but really I'm bored with the lack of skill required to play SOF2... Any n00b can fire it up and bust out the shotgun and his m203 with 2 frag nades he just has to throw at any door and he will rack up the kills. Sorry but I feel more motivated by games that have more focus on getting headshots.