Questions for APOXOL

Hello Apoxol, I’m curious about a few things:

Where exactly does a bullet originate? Where is the plane that a bullet begins?  Does it begin in the center of the players skull, chest, or at the end of the gun barrel? And where does the damage of the bullet begin, is it at the origin plane or the end of the gun barrel or elsewhere?

My reason for this question is that I noticed when extremely close to the enemy; such as when you run into each other, the bullets seem to be ineffective, like as if they’re going right through them.  Is the barrel actually sticking through their body and the damage doesn’t begin until the bullet leaves the barrel, which is behind them?

What about the knife, where exactly does it originate?  If I’m face-to-face with an enemy and throw the knife, am I throwing it over their head, since my throwing hand is higher then their head?  At what plane, relative to my body does a thrown knife begin, and is that the same plane that damage begins?

Do bullets and knives have the same damage at the very beginning of their travel distance as the end? Is the speed constant throughout?

I know the knife travels in an arch, but what about the bullets, is there any gravitational drop?  Should I aim a little above someone’s head at certain distances?

Is there any kind of a pull toward the body of an opponent of anything thrown or shot at them?  Does a bullet travel in a perfect straight line and if that line misses the head of an opponent by ¼ inch then it misses, or will it kind of veer toward the body when it gets within a certain distance.  What about the grenades from the M203, how does a grenade seem to hit square on to someone running that was fired from an extreme distance?

Is there anything a bullet can penetrate besides tent fabric and water? What about glass, the first time a bullet hits glass, does it stop there or go through?

Is armor universal or only apply to certain body points?  If someone is shot in the leg with 100% armor will the damage be less than the same shot without armor?  Are all MP skins the same as far as damage?  Is the area and damage identical with a female skin as with Sanchez?

That’s it for now.  Thanks

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i think i would rather here apoxol's answer to this as well,

i just thought that at point blank range, holding down the trigger of the m60 caused the bullets to make right angled turns as soon as they left the gun  

I too am curious. Even spectating I wonder, how didn't he kill him?

Also I believe someone told me that if you jump while shooting a shotty is very inaccurate, yet watching in spectator it seems to be a very different story. I also find jumping around with shottie I have little problem converting someone to fleshy waste.

I think the netcode is great in this game, but I think under lag conditions this netcode has serious problems. So when the server has laggy connections, to me, the server can't cope with it and it is just a best guess situation. This can happen in close quarters with an enemy.

The bullet originates from the center of your view, which is most likely (never checked) close to your head in third person.  It also starts a little behind you to make sure that if your right up against someone that it doenst start inside or past them.

What is your ping when you play?  Extreme close range can be harder to hit than not sometimes due to prediction errors with being able to move into someone else.  Basically your client thinks you can move there but you cant so the server puts you back.  You can see this alot when running along side a teammate and bumping into him alot.

The knife originates in the same place as the bullet except it starts right in front of you instead of behind you like the bullet.

Knives maintain their damage throughout travel and bullets dont actually travel, they are instant and unless its a short range weapon like the shotgun the damage is constant.

Bullets are instant hitscan weapons which means they are just a line straight out of your view (plus inaccuracy and kick modifiers).

No pull towards bodies.

Bullets cant really penetrate anything.  A few designers made some tents that dont stop bullets which is why you can shoot through them.  Bullets continue forever through glass.

Armor covers the whole body and how much is used is dependent on how much damage you take.  Basically it just absorbs damage.

All skins are the same with damage, including females.

cool, thnx for the info man:)

About the different skins, I always choose the smallest player, I figure I'm less of a target that way. Is that just wishful thinking? i.e. on finca, would a shot that hits the outside of the fat guys belly miss the thin guy?

Apox is right, although SOF2 is a lot of close quarters fighting as you said, it's not "my phallic extremity is touching your fat belly" type of close quarter fighting... You're usually about 5-10 feet away in a CLOSE fight, and farther back even more of the time.

Close is all in the eye of the beholder!