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Author Topic: RAVEN CONCEDED DEFEAT!??
DYNAGOD~rb
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Since: Dec 23, 2006
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Posted: Friday, Jun. 21, 2002 02:00 am
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I kid you not...we have run SOF2 on about 4 dozen P3 and P4 machines at Raven and QA has run it on at least 8 different AMD machines and we have not seen performance problems like you're reporting here. If we could run debug code on just one machine that has these issues we could probably figure out something but we just can't reproduce it. The only things I can think of are to have a problematic machine shipped to us or (as was suggested here and borders on ludicrous) go to CompUSA or Best Buy and test the game on every machine until we get one that doesn't perform properly and then buy it. Since these are the lengths to which we'd have to go to further research this situation I'd say we're just about out of options.

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Assistant Lead Programmer, SOF2

i think its safe to say WE ARE FUCKED PEOPLE
dont see them posting this reply on a sticky...guess we all own special ,one of a kind mystery enigma machines unlike any others produced on the planet earth...
not nice to be special now is it lol
i feel a prison riot coming on....
:s22:
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Fragger~rb
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Posted: Friday, Jun. 21, 2002 02:11 am
If you don't post your specs, yes, you have a "special ,one of a kind mystery enigma machine unlike any others produced on the planet earth".
They've sold MILLIONS of copies. And you can't get yours to work. And you think Raven has to drop everything to help YOU.
You must be CRAZY. Or Freakaloin. :s17:
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DYNAGOD~rb
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Posted: Friday, Jun. 21, 2002 02:16 am
if i post my specs one more time my fingers will fall off ...
COMPLETE SPECS ,drivers bios hardware
use the search feature....
its there...
I even offerd my machine to RAVEN but its my understanding they dont want to be responsible for the shipping and shipping insurance costs or general responsibility.

so dont be so quick to give me poo-poo...
im trying to do my part
:s29:
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DYNAGOD~rb
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Posted: Friday, Jun. 21, 2002 02:20 am
happy.........
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i got the system and a SMOOTH as silk OS..im a maintenance FREAK...
Dimesion 8100 w/pentium 4 1.7 ghz 400mhz fsb(win me,i know)
mobo bios A09 (latest and greatest)
1,024 mb of pc800 rdramm(swap file controlled by me not win)
Visiontek geforce 4 4600TI 128 mb
drivers 4.13.01.2942 detonator
bios 4.25.00.25.17
my agp appeture is set to 256
(however nvidia agp appeture utility displays i have 128 mb of memory avail. so its necessary to set my appeture so high)
my sound card was moved down 2 slots and reinstalled per instruction of kenn hoekstra to prevent resource/voltage sharing(a prob primarily i understand on dells only)...
antistophic filtering is OFF completely ,slider all the way left..
vsync is disabled
flares are off, shadows are off
my settings are set BELOW recomended installation settings.
my textures and other detail settings dont exceed one another.
and im running at a crayola crayon looking 640x480
(matched to my desktop res i might add)\

90 fps looking at a wall.....7 fps on combat.....
i have 87% of my system resources available when begining a game (NOTHING RUNNING EXCEPT SYSTRAY AND EXPLORER,and over 800 mbs FREE of system memory,not including the 128mb my gf4 ti4600 provides)
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DYNAGOD~rb
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Posted: Friday, Jun. 21, 2002 02:27 am
im willing to give up my machine and take one for the team...
i want to help SOLVE this problem.
and quite honestly ,if you arent having a problem witht this game fragger
WHAT THE #### ARE U DOING IN THE "SUPPOT FORUM?"?
go away and play and let the minority of us who r having this problem comisserate together...
i understand raven has bigger and better things to do than drop everything to help us,i understand there are literally thousands of different sytem configs and hardware types out there to deal with,i understand that they have other games and other projects to deal with,,,poo-poo im ESTACTIC at the level of support we recieve as it is! its unprecidented!
BUT........
this is a place to vent...
and venting is what we are doing..

so if you arent part of the solution u r just pee-peeing us off.
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RamRod~rb
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Posted: Friday, Jun. 21, 2002 02:28 am
Fragger-

He has listed his specs and I have offered to have him ship it to me. He wants Raven to take responsibility for the machine and pay the costs and I told him I can't speak for Raven as to whether or not they would find that acceptable.
Frankly, I don't blame either party for not wanting to do it.
I was willing to look at it and perhaps have someone at Raven "do their thing" but I'm not willing to incur the costs or the responsibility of it being damaged in shipping either.

Perhaps it just isn't a good idea. Just throwing that option out to him since he was willing to part with it.
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Fragger~rb
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Posted: Friday, Jun. 21, 2002 02:29 am
Dude! You got a Dell! Dell Sucks. That's your problem.
Brand name computers are assembly-line made. That means they assume they work fine, when they don't. Also, they have many components built into the MB. That's bad for performance.
When you buy a brand name computer, you're paying for the name, not the system.
It's like buying one of those sandwiches at 7-Eleven. You don't know what's in them. They give you a list of ingredients, but they don't tell you they're giving you the cheapest stuff possible. Return it if you still can and go to your neighborhood mom and pop computer store and have them build one for you according to YOUR specs. You'll get a kick-a$$ system and save a lot of money in the process. If you can't return it, Think about this when you get a new system.
Also, think about this:
Your money was used to pay that REALLY irritating dork in the Dell commercials. That sucks.
Also, don't get mad at me. I just told you the way it is. :s10:
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DYNAGOD~rb
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Posted: Friday, Jun. 21, 2002 02:45 am
believe me if i knew then what i know now about pcs i never would have bought one,,,,
but thats neither here nor there...
the game proports to run at specific and very clearly defined specs...which i CLEARLY exceed

i didnt see the sticker on the box that said not for use on dell systems.....


as for ramrods offer..

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This is the deal...you pay to ship it here (to me) and I will work with someone at raven on this. (I'll keep his name private for now)
If it turns out to be your rig, you pay to ship it back as well.
If it turns out to be a game problem, PERHAPS Raven could be convinced to pay the shipping costs. I can't speak for Raven at this time however I did talk to a Raven employee who was appreciative of my offer to help and indicated he would personally cover that expense if it came to that.

Again, I'm going out on a limb here in making this offer but I would like to see this resolved one way or another and I have a Raven employee to back me up. Probably more than 1 but that's who I talked to when I made this offer to Kaaos.
If this interests you, let me know and I will pursue it.
If not, I understand. I'm only trying to help here and I am a professional when it comes to computers and this Raven employee is a professional when it comes to this game.

Again, I emphasize I am NOT speaking for Raven officially here.

Jerry

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http://www.planetsoldier.com

http://sof.risanet.com      

-=SoF=- RamRod

if you could somehow get Raven to back you up and not have me go on nothing more than your word ,,,we might be able to do this...
my frustration level is at an all time high....
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Kaaos~rb
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Since: Dec 23, 2006
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Category: SoFII General
Posted: Friday, Jun. 21, 2002 02:50 am
Quote (Fragger @ June 20 2002, 9:29 pm)
Dude! You got a Dell! Dell Sucks. That's your problem.
Brand name computers are assembly-line made. That means they assume they work fine, when they don't. Also, they have many components built into the MB. That's bad for performance.
When you buy a brand name computer, you're paying for the name, not the system.
It's like buying one of those sandwiches at 7-Eleven. You don't know what's in them. They give you a list of ingredients, but they don't tell you they're giving you the cheapest stuff possible. Return it if you still can and go to your neighborhood mom and pop computer store and have them build one for you according to YOUR specs. You'll get a kick-a$$ system and save a lot of money in the process. If you can't return it, Think about this when you get a new system.
Also, think about this:
Your money was used to pay that REALLY irritating dork in the Dell commercials. That sucks.
Also, don't get mad at me. I just told you the way it is. :s10:

oh that's right fragger, don't make any fuckin effort to think of an intelligent response; just spew out any garbage that comes to your peanut mind; like blaming Dell- I'm so sure that you are that much better of a computer builder than they are since your company is sooo far ahead of them in every way possible- heh NOT! I think you need to get the #### out of this forum and get back to the drawing board with your weak ass maps and your "I love myself" attitude; we don't care about you ar your crappy input and we sure as #### don't need your advice with this issue- Get lost!

:s23:  :s27:
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DYNAGOD~rb
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Since: Dec 23, 2006
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Category: SoFII General
Posted: Friday, Jun. 21, 2002 02:50 am
im willing to pay shipping and the lousy 15 dollars to insure the friggin thing.......(poo-poo they got my 50 bucks for nothing i figured it would be the least they could do)
but i need some proof from Raven first ..........this is alot to ask of anyone i think...


Richard G.
neocoretex@yahoo.com
(what was that warranty card for anyways?)
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