Well saying that the M4/M203 is fair is a little unreasonable.. Now if people used the grenade to good effect, then maybe no one would complain, but the majority of M4 kills are just a suicide kill. And the fact that it has a much faster reload time than in real life makes it stupid when someone is near you, if you miss with the first just aim at the ground with the next. If you play something like Americas Army, you will find that the M4 is much more realistic. You have to tell it to reload the grenades, it takes a little longer to reload them, and instead of just looking up and firing which is comparatively easy, the gun will point up and you aim forward, which in my opinion is a lot better as it makes it harder to aim with it. Another irritation of it is that you can might be running from someone, jump into a hiding spot ready with your gun to shoot em as they pop around, and they lob an M203 at the ground. When you have no escape, you could argue that it is your fault to run in there, but using an M203 is just pointless. It takes no skill to point a nade at the wall / ground. Where is the fun in that?

That boyo "jjonth" has got it right on the money bout them guns, check a search engine for Fabrique Nationale <---- these guys make the guns that the U.S. Gov uses.

But the U.S. doesn't utilize all of the wpns that FN uses, as i understand it the M4 is made by Colt.

As to the Minimi that's the name that FN gave it, ya get it "M"inimi 249.

I've fired an AK-47 which utilizes 7.62x39(Soviet) and it is basically a spray and pray type of machinegun. I've also fired the AR-15 (civilian version of the M16), man that freaking thing can burst an eardrum, I must say that I've a preference for the 5.56(Nato).

Though at one point in my life I did have an opportunity to purchase an AK-74 which fires the 5.45(S), heard that the AK-74 puts more of a spin/tumble in the bullet than the M16/M4.

Im not voting, the pole is too vague. I like the m4 but not the m203. The most annoying thing is the AK is so bloody accurate. The MP5 has too much recoil (realism wise) and the m60 can shoot like 45 degrees east lol. I know its all about making MP fair but m203 is by far the thing that pisses me off

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Ok, I got about half way down page 4 and had to stop.

All this bitching about realism is horrible. If this game were PERFECTLY real, 1 shot, and you wouldn't be able to really do anything, you'd be limping, and your accuracy would be TERRIBLE. And that ain't half of it. ALL the weapons are wrong. The AK-74 for one.. well.. on my server I made it an AK-47 because the AK-74 is basically an M4/M16 with a different look.. same caliber, same round, same power. BUT, the AK-47 is a man stopper with the large 7.62mm round. Now when I say all the weapons are wrong.. yeah.. the M4 for one.. VERY innaccurate... the M203.. needs to have grenades that fire and spin so many times to arm themselves (on my server, 2 seconds is good...) The SOCOM is NOT a .45 caliber pistol... LOL Its a 9mm... whoever descided that was terrible. And don't even get me started on the M590 (Shottie for those of you uneducated apes) that thing is the worst... not only is it a sniper rifle.. for 1 pellet... thats like a quarter of your health... AND it has virtually no spread for a shotgun that small BS. I voted M590.

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