Just to say thanx for making this poll such a success.. and keep on voting..

7.9 from my view.  Quake 3 technology aside, the game is fun.

Here's what keeps the game from being a 10...  

1).  A.I.     What A.I.?  I'm playing on medium difficulty and enemies always know where I am, even when crouching prone in the bush, around a corner.  They come around and instantly shoot with a direct hit.  Nodes go from them to you.  Enemies can also hit you from across the field, while you're prone in the bush.  This is not A.I.

2).  Can't shoot from prone position.  I don't know about you guys, but I for one can still work the trigger and manipulate a gun from a prone position in real life (yeah occasionally I like to snipe out my local public park ).  Gimme a break.

3).  Savegame limit.  I like it, but there should be one more per difficulty level.  I hate loading the level start save only to be forced to watch the sometimes lengthy intros.  One more save would give me a better level start save.

4).  I was inside a building today and opened the hatch to the outside where an enemy was on the ledge.  He could shoot and hit me right through the opening, but from no angle could I hit him.  Wtf?

I gave it the 8.5 - 8.9, which is designated as 'great'.  I would call it very good.  The graphics are superb, but clipping issues are a very real problem.  The GHOUL hit locations really add dimension that neither RtCW or MoHAA have got.  But the game is absolutely THE MOST LINEAR game I've ever played.  I also liked the variety of enemies in terms or type, tactics, guns and armor.  The AI, while very good (better than almost any other game) on average, is very often too smart or too dumb.  They can also shoot through clipping problems.  One example is in the Airport, where I'm behind a bookcase and taking serious damage.  

I rate it overall about the same score as RtCW or MoHAA, but below Jedi Outcast.  

Mike

"But the game is absolutely THE MOST LINEAR game I've ever played."

        I agree. And from this moment on, if I get a hint of this kinda linearity in a game, I won`t buy it. I would rather stick to multi only games if all the Developers are gonna do is lead us thru the garden gate, by the nose mind you. lol

        I think they knew the sp was gonna not deliver the goods, and knew they better throw in the multi or they`d be in bigtime trouble. "save thy a**es" must have been a good motto around the Raven offices. hahahahahaha Well, it worked. Multi saved this game.

well when should we give it the verdict then.. we have 146 votes till now and any of u guys have suggestions.. shall the verdict be out on 150 votes or wait till this poll hits 200 votes.. by the way there is a tie b/w Great and Simply Superb at the moment.. lets she what happens next..

about the linearity.. all games that i have played by Raven have been linear.. and without options.. actually most FPSs are unless they qualify as an RPG.. so i wouldnt worry too much about linearity in a game.. thats the way FPSs are designed.. and thats the way it always has been..

Gave it the 8-9

Too give it a 9 is the hype talking, no game deserves a 9 or 10.

7-8 is more realistic.

In order too get 9 it would have too be radical and completly new gameplay structure, and something totaly unseen before.

THE VERDICT... after 157 votes is

SOF2 gets a great by securing 34 votes...
and 33 votes a piece for Simply Superb and Awesome...

So this forum votes SOF2 as 8.9 (chose the higher limit coz of the fact that we have so many more votes for simply superb and awesome...)

I just want to say that the multiplayer is pretty good. We have to remember that this game is new, other games HAVE had patches come out. It is kind of unfair for us to judge it just yet. I do have a horrible system:
Pentium 3 450 mhz
128 mb memory
Radeon 7000 video card

The only thing taht keeps me playing is the MP, because I have cable, but for those without good bandwith and a bad system, may God help you.

Big 10, best game I've played in a while...

1) It's linear all the way -
In the jungle I feel like I'm playing an adventure game where I have to shoot to solve the puzzles.

2) It's not realistic -
Let's face it...I realize there has to be some fun too, so it'll never be entirely realistic (real combat is not fun hehe) but the way it is now I somehow strangely feel like I'm a cartoon character. I'm not sure why.

3) It has serious frame rate problems -
I don't think it's visually stunning enough not to run well everywhere on an xp1700+ with a gf3 and 512mb ram in 1024x768 medium high detail.

4) It's so unstable that it's barely playable -
Yes I have the via4in1 drivers, and whql nvidia drivers, and good sound drivers, mohaa runs fine, rtcw runs fine, but this game I can barely play for 30min before it locks up. I can't even finish a game in multiplayer...The demo was more stable.

5) The weapon mix is not so interesting -
It's ok, but not great. I'm pretty much always using the M4, and a shotgun at close range. I wouldn't mind this if the rest was great.

6) The AI is...strange -
Sometimes they are very smart indeed, and I do think there's a good deal of AI code behind all this. But to me it feels like a LOT is scripted, they will always throw a grenade the same way at the same time. Also see point (7).

7) Enemies see through stuff -
The grass I can live with, I know how difficult that is, but there's no excuse whatsoever that an enemy can see through a solid wooden crate that's larger than I am. Or when I'm crawling in the foggy dark they can hit me right on when I can't even see them with a sniper scope.

8) Weapon damage and armor is weird -
I can shoot a hole in someone's chest or shoulder with a sniper rifle and they won't even flinch, they just keep walking straight at me like nothing at all happened. Yet if I hit their head it will blow to bits. There's no body armor out there today that will completely stop a super sonic 7.62mm round. It will probably break your ribs.

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Ok, I realize this all sounds very negative, and I honestly don't want to be this way...but I can't help it. I was looking forward to this game for months, the mp demo looked very promising. Anyway to name some good points too...

1) the models and maps look pretty nice
2) the ghoul2 system is very nice, even tho exagerated a little bit. But that doesn't matter to me, I like it.
3) support for my force feedback mouse!! yeeeh! hehe This makes full auto firing of my M4 awesome.
4) good multiplayer