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westonegoth
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Posted: Saturday, Nov. 25, 2006 09:30 pm
hi all,

since christmas is on teh way i am planning on what to buy lol, but i aint too sure, here is what i would like,

Intel core 2 duo processor
512mb GFX Card
2 to 4gig of RAM
and a motherboard that takes that,

the only 2 problems are,

i cannot find a motherboard that will take an, Intel core 2 duo processor and 3gig or more of RAM, does any one else have a motherboard that can take these items?? or know where i can buy one please?


and secondly i don't have the money yet lol, but lets concentrate on question 1 lmao :D
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Tim451
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Posted: Saturday, Nov. 25, 2006 10:03 pm
Dont bother with Intel... Go for an AMD 64 CPU... AMD make the best gaming CPU's (actually they make the best CPU's full stop) and not that long ago they all came down in price which means that you can pick up a decent gaming CPU for around £150 (dunno what that is in dollars)...

Most Socket 939 motherboards (AMD socket) can take up to 4 gigs of memory & some can take up to 8 gigs, so that should fix problem one...

I recommend that you go for an Nvidia GPU because that way you can eventually get a second identical card & run them in SLI configuration... That'll mean you'll have 1 gig of graphics memory (providing you get two 512mb cards)... ATI do have a similar system to SLI called Crossfire but you need a special motherboard for it & from what I've read it just doesn't seem worth it...

Problem two is easy... Start saving like hell! lol

[sniper]

edited on Nov. 25, 2006 05:07 pm by Tim451
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Mystic
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Posted: Saturday, Nov. 25, 2006 10:08 pm
I recently built a system using the following card:
http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/113951/rb/23297814358

It supports intel core duo.

As we discussed in xfire, you should really concider AMD, they have more potential than intel.
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westonegoth
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Posted: Saturday, Nov. 25, 2006 10:14 pm
ermmm.... this is hard to choose lol, i understand what you guys are typing about here but, i do more than one thing at a time thats where core 2 comes in, amd is good for gaming as alot of people are saying, but intel is newer, and i don't just map and game i edit and do photoshop aswell, its sonfusing..

@rasta i remember what u said earlier but that motherboard says in the specification that it supports Dual-Core, well i would like Core 2 Duo, or am i mistaking my self here?? is it the exact same thing ??

edited on Nov. 25, 2006 05:16 pm by westonegoth
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Mystic
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Posted: Saturday, Nov. 25, 2006 10:23 pm
Having two CPUs (and a motherboard capable of hosting them) is more expensive, so computer engineers came up with another approach: take two CPUs, smash them together onto one chip, and presto! The power of two CPUs, but only one socket on the motherboard.

This keeps the price of the motherboards reasonable, and allows for the power of two CPUs (also known as cores) with a cost that is less than two separate chips. This, in a nut shell, is what the term "Dual Core" refers to - two CPUs put together on one chip.

Intel did not increase the speed of their front-side-bus (the connection between the CPU and the motherboard) when they switched to dual-core, meaning that though the processing power doubled, the amount of bandwidth for each core did not. This puts a bit of a strain on the Intel design, and likely prevents it from being as powerful as it could be. To counteract this effect, Intel continues to use faster system memory to keep information supplied to the processor cores. As a side note, the highest-end Intel chip, the Pentium Extreme Edition 955, has a higher front-side-bus speed, as well as having a larger (2MB per core) cache memory and the ability to use Hyperthreading (which all non-Extreme Edition Pentium D processors lack). This makes it a very tempting choice for those wanting to overcome some of the design handicaps of Intel's dual-core solution.

AMD, on the other hand, does not use a front-side-bus in the traditional sense. They use a technology called HyperTransport to communicate with the chipset and system memory, and they have also moved the memory controller from the chipset to the CPU. By having the memory controller directly on the processor, AMD has given their platform a large advantage, especially with the move to dual-core. The latest generation of AMD single-core processors can use single- or dual-channel PC3200 memory, but it is interesting to note that even though dual-channel operation doubles the memory speed, it does not double the actual memory performance for single-core processors. It appears that dual-channel memory just provides significanly more bandwidth than a single processor core can use. However, with dual-core processors all that extra bandwidth can be put to good use, allowing the same technology already present in single-core chips to remain unchanged without causing the same sort of bottleneck Intel suffers from.
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westonegoth
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Posted: Saturday, Nov. 25, 2006 10:38 pm
ow wow, that was educational andi aint being sarcastic either m8, nice to learn abit of technology. so, it seems i have mis understodd information from other people, but intel have released a new processor that matches amd, its a competative race, it is stil a bit hard to choose but i would rather go for a core 2 duo than an amd 64, its odd how i want an intel duo rather than an amd, its mainly because of the motherboards functions that i can also get at a lower price online, so its intel for me guys chears for the help an all, but if any 1 else has some words of wisdom keep em coming, as for the motherboard i have chosen to go with, possibly, this one :

http://www.dabs.com/productview.aspx?Quicklinx=451B&CategorySelectedId=11143&PageMode=1&NavigationKey=11143,42180000,4294959071,42620000,4294959072&v=2%23infoarea

take a look and let me know what you guys reccon,

chears
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fullaholes
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Posted: Saturday, Nov. 25, 2006 10:43 pm
One of these > http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=401103 <
one of these > http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=451486 <

And two of these > http://www.microdirect.co.uk/Productinfo.aspx?ProductID=14386 <

The DDR2 memory is a killer on the wallet but it's worth it [casanova]
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Mystic
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Posted: Saturday, Nov. 25, 2006 10:44 pm
That looks good to me.
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westonegoth
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Posted: Saturday, Nov. 25, 2006 10:55 pm
nice findings, do you shop from theire often ???

also this is info from mi dad as he is a computer builder his self, he reccons the intel Core 2 Duo is better than that one cos its faster it is ! lol

because as that amd is 4600+ i think if not mistaken the intel is a bit bigger than that, as for the mother board,

there are two different colours their, now does that mean that the motherboard can take 3 slots of ddr2 memmory or just 2 2gigs of ddr2 ??? or another 2 gig of what ever else??? why is there two colours??

also i aint forking out almost £180 on 2 gig ied rather spend £120 on 2 1gigs of ram

nice finds but explain hte colour sheme is it a fashion thing lol
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westonegoth
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Posted: Saturday, Nov. 25, 2006 10:57 pm
infact the intel i want is 6400 where ur amd is only 4600 :S
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