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Author Topic: [Preview] Auschwitz , Poland
[WFH]=Hyperdrive=
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Posted: Monday, Jul. 17, 2006 04:48 am
This map will be set in the concentration camp of Auschwitz, Poland. I was always interested in the history of concentration camps and its horrors, This map will features many real replicas of different buildings and manuments from the camp, as with other replicas from Birkenau wich was 1-2 miles from Auschwitz, it will mix all of this features together into, an map wich is little larger then the largest maps in Cod2, many replicas featuring:

Birkenau gate

wall of death

SS hospital from Birkenau, 2 different crematoriums and gas chambers, all replicas.

and many more.....

It will be a really detailed map, was working on it from the beggining when the mod tools were out, im thinking about 2 weeks , and i be at finnal stage of finishing it off .

will feature: CTF,DM , TDM, and hofully S and D will update with my progress, in the upcoming week i might beta test it with my clan to see if it will have any balance problems between game types, and then set it for the realese.

wisit my clan site at http://www.bitchassmofos.com/ i be publishing my progress and pictures both on this ,and my clan site.








real


in game:


all of this pics are weeks old, will update on new improved ones in short, but for now thats all i can show, im pushing for a realese by the end of the month, but i might finish it even sooner, so i let everyone know.

EDIT: somehow the thumbnails dont work, sorry about that, but i incourage everyone interested to visti my clan site, and go to our forums and see the mapping section and you will find the topic, you can see al lthis picktures at this site also:

http://www.daveyboneslocker.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewforum&f=6
http://www.bitchassmofos.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1013

edited on Jul. 17, 2006 12:50 am by [BAMF]SLAYER

edited on Jul. 17, 2006 12:51 am by [BAMF]SLAYER
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privategrob
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Posted: Monday, Jul. 17, 2006 09:01 am
Sorry, but I think a concentration camp is not really a good place for a map..... [eek]

Regards
Private Grob
(Micka)

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Andrew_Myers
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Posted: Monday, Jul. 17, 2006 09:11 am
dont get me wrong, its not a bad looking map, you look pretty competent with the editor, but i dont think this is really appropiate material for a game, just warning you that uyou are likly to offend a lot of people by doing this, some things just aren't done. i caren't say i'd feel entirely comfortable playing as one of the germans knowing we're in a death camp

any other people feel this way?

edited on Jul. 17, 2006 05:13 am by Andrew_Myers
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WHC_Grassy
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Posted: Monday, Jul. 17, 2006 09:14 am
People dont start with the whole "ethics" discussion, one could argue that all war type games are of dubious ethical standards as well.

I wish you luck with your map, obviously you have done a lot research and are trying to create a map that not only looks similar to a real world location but will play well online.

[thumbs_up]

Grassy
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Andrew_Myers
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Posted: Monday, Jul. 17, 2006 09:27 am
would it be possible to change the teams to russian- german, seeing as how the russians liberated auschwitz in january 1945?
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ClaireClaws
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Posted: Monday, Jul. 17, 2006 01:08 pm
As there was never a battle over these camps.... ( Allies found them deserted by Germans) is verry verry wierd to want to use these camps as scenery.

Are you European.... Slayer? I gues not.

Because these camps were deathcamps for many of our family and friends of us Europeans. And the camps had nuthing to do with the war that was going on in Europe.The fighting allies didnt knew about these camps.

So speaking for the majority of European CoD2 players.

Dont use those camps as scenery for a game. Please.

With as simple fact there was never any fighting in or near those.

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Marlow
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Posted: Monday, Jul. 17, 2006 01:43 pm
I disagree with all the complaints about using these locations as maps. These camps were a legit portion of ww2. You can't please everyone all the time. Noone HAS to play the map, so keep truckin.
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Cypher2004
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Posted: Monday, Jul. 17, 2006 01:49 pm
Im from the UK and I personally cant see why the idea of Consentration camps in a video game like this are so looked down on. Ok, I can understand the idea that they are bad places due to the number of deaths, but why are the people critisising this one map quite happy to play an entire video game based around a conflict where MILLIONS of men, women and children died over the course of 6 years.

Ok, Consentration camps carry the idea of lots of death, but correct me if im wrong but doesnt Omaha Beach carry the same tag of death?

IMO, if someone wants to pay their tribute to the millions who died in consentration camos by making a map on it, then good luck to them.

SLAYER - I think the map is looking good. great attention to detail from the real to the ingame.
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[WFH]=Hyperdrive=
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Posted: Monday, Jul. 17, 2006 03:07 pm
ClaireClaws writes...
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As there was never a battle over these camps.... ( Allies found them deserted by Germans) is verry verry wierd to want to use these camps as scenery.

Are you European.... Slayer? I gues not.

Because these camps were deathcamps for many of our family and friends of us Europeans. And the camps had nuthing to do with the war that was going on in Europe.The fighting allies didnt knew about these camps.

So speaking for the majority of European CoD2 players.

Dont use those camps as scenery for a game. Please.

With as simple fact there was never any fighting in or near those.



well yes i am european, Im polish, i live in USA since i was 12 tho, and i visited the Auschwitz camp, and yes im afraid to say that i dont care if it will offend anyone, looks like everything now days offends some people, will the new buildings on the 911 zero ground offend the victims on 911? perheps, but you might get my point. I mostly respect the history of camps and its people, its not like im making fun out of jews just becouse im doing a concentration camp, its a place on a map, im only using the original place and its buildings and other manuments from both auschwitz and birkenau, whouldnt omaha beach offend people just becouse you played the map, what whould be different about my map?
I just want it to be nice, detailed, and to the point, im going to put a memorial in one of the place just to show my thoughts on respect for the place.

and thanks for the people that like my idea, its a game lets just have fun and not go all ballistic about the facts and the past.

and to one of the questions, i was going to use the original facts, about russians liberating the camps, but then i thought, i cant make the whole camp, its too huge for a map, i didnt want to make a winter map, thats when the liberated the camps, playing as russians whould make it unfair on that map im afraid to say, so i went with germany vs US, and in real life there was no fight there, the russians just stood up upon the camps while going through the city of Oswiecim. but the game is well balanced and good looking, will keep up on my progress.

edited on Jul. 17, 2006 11:12 am by [BAMF]SLAYER
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ClaireClaws
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Posted: Monday, Jul. 17, 2006 03:19 pm
There are certain lines in life you do not cross.

You show me a video-game where you have to grab food from starving babies in Africa to gain points and win.

A honest battle between healthy men is used for games since the ice-age. Chess etc. Even sports is based on that one.

And thats also a part of being a man. But me is femal.

And using a scenery where babies were smashed against a wall to kill them by men that did cross a line is no fun. A senery were grandmothers were raped and men were castrated etc.


And for many soldiers, even the ones now out there fighting wars in 2006, the use of concentration camps for civilians has nuthing to do with war.

A country serving soldier is something completly different then those low creatures who see war-time as the opportunity to make their sick fantasy come alive. And those people build these camps. And almost never a normal German soldier or civilian got to see what was happening in there.

So dont compare a battlefield as Omaha Beach with concentration camps.
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