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Author Topic: Hot Coffee leads to Modding Breakdown
foyleman
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Posted: Friday, Jul. 22, 2005 04:46 pm

Here's an article I found that is sure to get the blood flowing. You should all know about the "Hot Coffee" incident for GTA: San Andreas. If you don't, then I suggest you checkout the latest episode of MODSonair where we discuss it further.

Now, the ESRB is considering proactive protection of games from illegal modifications by third parties. This means they want to put a stop to modding.

I don't see this happening, but they may make it tougher for us in the future.

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Posted: Friday, Jul. 22, 2005 04:59 pm
i can't see that actually happening, if they did, there would be an uproar about it [duh]
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Posted: Friday, Jul. 22, 2005 06:18 pm
Nice story.

But cant understand why the "hidden" sex level
was put in the game at the first place.

It is not an excuse to say if we remove this or altering this
level it causes problems to other parts which stop working.

They better can blaim thereselves.

I hope there will be not a new law which says that modding
becomes illegal.

[sniper][sniper][sniper]

The only solution if this happens is to develop games from scratch.

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edited on Jul. 22, 2005 01:24 pm by 3dart
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Posted: Friday, Jul. 22, 2005 06:24 pm
In the end, I think the decision to allow game modification will be left to the developer. They can chose to leave the game open for mod and even to supply us with the tools. Or they can make the game inaccesible in some way and watch the profits suffer.

That the end game here... how much do these companies stand to lose by disallowing game modification.

Of couse, nothing will ever stop all forms of game modification. In the end, someone always has a way around what stands in our way.
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Posted: Friday, Jul. 22, 2005 09:03 pm
You can have all the senseless violence you want, but for heavens sake, NEVER show a nipple...

Here is an analogy...

cheater's use mods

You will ALWAYS have mods of one form or another, the only thing they will achieve with censoring, is the removal of "good" ones...

I'm just gonna press "post" before I fly off the handle!
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Posted: Saturday, Jul. 23, 2005 12:46 am
i totally disagreee with your analogy PleaseMYOB

a mod is anything that changes the game from stock

this means all custom maps are in effect mods....modifications from the original gamestate

this is a disasterous decision for the gaming community, but i dont think the mod was anything that wsnt there already....

have a listen to MoDSOnAir 002

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Posted: Saturday, Jul. 23, 2005 02:31 am
I agree to disagree...

Anything that changes the game from stock, for better or worse, is a moddification in my eyes, even if it is only limited to the gameplay of a single client for ill purposes...

I come to this conclusion by thinking if you can alter the game on an evil level, you can also do things on a good level, so you really wil never have modding come to an end, just be for select few, or the really determined...

I did listen to the episode before that post, btw... my apologies if I am out of line...
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Posted: Saturday, Jul. 23, 2005 03:05 am
nono - do not be sorry that you have an opinion...it is neither right nor wrong...it is YOURS - and certainly is not out of line because it differs from mine - or anyone elses for that matter

i just reread my first post, and it does sound rather pompous...it was not meant to be so - rather a hastily typed shortened opinion that i stated on the recent podcast....

i really didnt explain that well in the previous post

it is i who should be offering apologies[angryalien]
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Posted: Saturday, Jul. 23, 2005 01:47 pm
you guys crack me up. [lol]
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Posted: Saturday, Jul. 23, 2005 05:02 pm
The best way to sum up my view is...

Aside from not releasing tools, what other measures can they take to enforce it, punkbuster?

[lol]
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