The maps look great. Isn't the Berlin Wall in the Map Plans? Hope they do release those.

Ray writes...
Hardly the problem. The fact of the matter is that they purposefully left these maps out of the game in order to charge you later. If you approve of that business model, by all means, use your wallet to tell Activision you like paying money for maps more than mod tools.

clanhelio writes...

Yeah they didnt release them with the game. Big deal. I may choose to buy them if required and I may not. We dont even have to worry about this until February 2011. I dont think it is a matter of telling Activision anything at all. I like the mod tools too since I have released a number of maps over the past bunch of years and helped out with countless others. The amount of free maps that I and everyone has played over the years far outweighs having to buy a mappack. I bet they are small maps too. If they really arent they great then I will just put them on my servers exclude list and not bother my regulars with having to buy them at all.

clanhelio writes...

So you're saying this map below and many of the others that look unfinished, are production quality that should have been released in the box?


Most of the screenshots in the original post are either block outs, no detail and/or no FX.

For some reason you feel that you have to pay someone for all those free maps you played. That's not the case. They left it out because they want you out of your money. It's like not getting mad that they release a call of duty every year.

You do realize that not every map can be done before the end of production cycle? Making the map either way is making the map, get over it. A lot of work goes into them and more people would understand this if they got off their arses and started to actually develop some maps that are decent enough in design and flow to compete with the industry.

clanhelio writes...

Perhaps you should wait for HoS. Apparently it has everything according to some people. You would fit right in.

I don't care if they were 100% finished or not. They planned it all down the road. Not only are they denying us mod tools (Pfft yeah, we'll see), they're making us pay for content they sectioned off a piece of their team to make. You know, labor they could have used to fix vital glitches? Like servers? Oh yeah, I heard mention of that in here. While your servers are crashing all the time, Activision is getting ready to try to suck more money out of you. But if you want use your wallet to approve of it, go right ahead.

Hey. If that business model works all right for you, so be it. Wait till they start charging you real money for emblems and poo-poo.


Invalid point. I don't make movies, yet I can still call the horrible ones poo-poo. Everybody can.

Ray writes...
I have no idea what HoS is, but I have noticed that you insulted me for not throwing money away.

edited on Dec. 22, 2010 04:49 am by clanhelio

clanhelio writes...



I have insulted you? OMG!! Im sorry, I dont see any insults, implied or otherwise but I am truly sorry that you see it that way.

Have a Merry Christmas and please stay away from anything Black Ops for a few days since I can see that it upsets you during this happy festive time.

How rude of me toofor not giving you this info too.....here is a link to Heroes of Stalingrad by TripWire (HoS)


Heroes of Stalingrad