liltc64 writes...


I don't normally give an opinion on these sort of thing but i must say i completely disagree with this.

I have a PS3 and Xbox360, played all the consoles (NEC, N64 etc..) as far as skill goes consoles are made to be easy, there controller design, button location and key bindings are are all designed to attract young players and make it quick and easy to pick up.

A lot of console shooters have an aim assist which helps you aim at the other player, i played mw2 on my freinds xbox360 and his son who is around 4 years old was almost too good, almost like he had some sort of aimbot implanted in his head. On the pc i set him up with WaW and it was a different story. Even i have compared games such as call of duty 4 and far cry 2 between consoles and the pc.

I know that 1 ''experiment'' doesn't prove anything and i also realise you will always get pc fans vs console fans, but from experience i would place consoles at the bottom of the difficulty list, right next to tying your show laces.

yeah i agree with u on the auto aim but u can turn that off in ur settings but ofc i think everyone would wana keep it on, but disagree i think PC alot easyer to aim then anything. PC all u do is point click nothing hard... analogs u do this all with ur 2 thumbs and if u ever played GOW2 sometimes i had to use my nuckle of my index finger to move the right analog so i could sprint and shoot at the same time was weird but got the hang of it but all this aiming is easyer for me now ofc iv been playing for a long time but if u got someone new playing they are terrible iv seen this from expirence, and u dont have hackers all over the place on consoles i play all the time on console and iv only seen 1 guy legit wallhacking on mw2

i think aimbot is > autoaim

edited on Sep. 25, 2010 01:02 pm by liltc64

liltc64 writes...

I've played on a: Xbox original, Xbox 360, PS, PS2, PS3, N.64, and PC.

By far, PC is the hardest to master.

The fact that controllers vibrate also disturbs me.

i have to agree with all saying that the console is the easier of the 2 formats i admit that i am also a xbox player and i do play mw2(level 5-6 pristege cant remember lol) and it is just 2 easy i can go several rounds without even getting hit (headquarters) i would never dream of doing that on the pc the calibre of players just dont permit it on the pc and that makes for a better experience i think.

liltc64 writes...

*sigh* Stop pretending when YOU go and play on PC that YOU are the specially selected individual to use the,
***Keyboard+Mouse Advanced Human Input Device Prototype***
,of the far advanced 20th century.

Easier to Aim on PC SKU != Easier to defeat opponents on PC SKU

Note: ' != ' means ' not equal to / not equivalent to '

Just because its EASIER to translate your keyboard&mouse movements/actions in reality to the computed virtually 3D rendered FPS world doesn't mean its easier to win or defeat your opponents. When in-fact every other PC Gamer (VERY High Majority) is using the same type of input devices (kb/m) actually makes it HARDER because you'll be potentially decimated by those that are sub-par, below average, above average, intermediate, seasoned or professional PC Gamers who use the same input system.

The skill level cap for kb/m is SO much HIGHER than a gamepad and much HARDER to master because of that. If you ask me, the skill level cap for kb/m concerning FPS games is when you literally are a Human Aimbot, you can move your crosshair in circles on a target's head, while shooting, while both of you are moving, while bunnyhopping, 50 - 100 feet away from each other. kb/m is the closest practical application of a human extension that correlates to a Third or First Person virtual reality.

You wouldn't call me out that I'm using the "Easy" method or having no skill when I'm using my arms and hands + legs to shoot baskets and you're using a catapult pre-aligned and leveraged to get a basket at least 75% of the time. That's just ridiculous. (Alot of PC Gamers know and believe that the Gaming Console/Gamepad Controller are ridiculous for this aspect/subject and many others)
Similarly if I'm in a war where everyone uses modern assault rifles and you're in a war where everyone uses single-action, bolt action rifles, you'll say, "Wow assault rifles takes no skill / easier compared to bolt action." Right there you are immediately intertwining the hypothetical scenario if the two wars merged or if YOU were the only operator of a modern assault rifle in YOUR WAR. That doesn't count and doesn't make sense.

The skill levels are relative to the respective "loadouts", "tools", "method" and otherwise the nature of the conflict or competition. The skill level cap generally ONLY increases as more efficient or potentially practical technology emerges meaning more potential skill is required.

The following is true:

Easier to Aim on PC SKU == Easier to Die on PC SKU

It may definitely take skill to interface with the highly inadequate (for Shooter Games) gamepad feat. "fumblesticks" input system proficiently, but it exponentially (not literally exp.) requires more skill from the user to UTILIZE the kb/m input system to counter the actions of other users on the PC platform. (Macs are part of the PC platform/are PC's so of course they are bitterly included)

Sorry buddy, there's a time and place for gamepads, but the general consensus within the PC FPS Gaming community is that kb/m > gamepad. kb/m requires more skill.

TL;DR? Then my answer to anyone who does is you fail at prolonged, American English, extended-session reading.

im impressed you took the time to type all that out sorry i didnt get to read the whole thing i stopped at != means not equal to i had a fun laugh LOL!!!! get a life child if u dont like my opinion then cry to someone else.

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@WOrLdWAr2

I actually enjoyed reading a intelligent and thought out arguement for once, not the normally 'OMG QQ YOU SUCK!!!11oneone! that you normally get from people in general (not refering to you).

Now everyone has an opinion here, lets just leave it at that and keep the hate to a minimum ok?

seems to me that WOrLdWAr2 proved a point while the other ppl just played it out --><-- which is a nice, if ur a kid.

@liltc64
hmm...
WOrLdWAr2 writes...
I'll add one of the reasons you TL;Hardly-read-any-of-it is you could be a child with the way you present yourself in your replies on the web especially like your last one. If you want to continue this same "image" of yourself with less than adequate language/implications then you incriminate your own self-reputation here.
There's a level of respect required (or I'd like to think) to post on these forums, especially ModsOnline's forums. They taught me the fundamentals and joy of creating/designing my own content in my game of choice, out of those supported, and allow me to be independent on that avenue & be more creative. If no where else, I'd like to think respect should strive on this website. I hereby end my discussion with you.

@Ploxxy
Ploxxy writes...
LoL??

@Mystic
Thank you very much, nice to see you enjoyed my "comment" on the matter. I've wrote what I wanted to present to everyone concerning the matter so I will no longer engage with him or anyone else that has less-than-meaningful things to write about me.

@voidsource
WOrLdWAr2 proved a point because it was the "seemingly" last honorable and justified human war from the Allies perspective, the number of belligerents involved speak for themselves! lol
In all seriousness, I try to convey the argument from a logical / factual / analytical and metaphorical sense that matches and reinforces any opinions present in the argument.

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On-topic, I personally will be purchasing CoD7:BO. The wager matches is an extra thing to do if you feel lucky or wanna go Caesar's Palace BlackOps style. The longevity I get from the game is MULTITUDES HIGHER than that misfit, the one released last year, and it will only increase if Treyarch does in-fact generate "end-user" modtools and then almost infinitely if they turn out to generate maptools as well. (Yes, it was previously understood by all of us that "modtools" represented a container for the ENTIRETY of software that allows us to "modify", "add", "create" content for the game. I have to make the distinction for CoD7:BO in respect to the points stated by pcdev, jd_2020 and the cumulative PC FAQ)

Either way I am going to enjoy the game.

Lets play a fun game, can anyone name me a game worse than MisfitFare 2 in terms of gameplay and features? I'm curious for the results. =)