Well I'm still going with it:

hil400_crate = some wierd dodgy collision

There are lots of crate models though - Getting each one in radiant so I know what it looks like then putting it in script if it's similar.

edited on Mar. 17, 2010 08:28 pm by techno2sl

The hill 400 crate if I remember rightly was used to block a bunker entrance in the SP level right?

It has a very wierd collision on it which is bumpy

OK Numerous models later and so far only the hill400_crate works, but it appears to spawn a solid cylinder at it's centre and not collision representative of the crate.

So what's going on in the videos? Why didn't you mention that only this crate works? Why in the video does the crate appear to have more collision than mine have?

I feel so out of the loop.

edited on Mar. 17, 2010 09:13 pm by techno2sl

Locking this until probably 10am GMT tomorrow. (18th)

As I need sleep and this could get heated over night. If another mod comes online they may choose to unlock it, we just don't want a flame war kicking off without the fire brigade around.

I did some testing of my own... it's legit to a certain degree. Basically, the model must have LOD collision... Some stock models have it, some do not. The xmodel exporter shows which ones do and don't. The collision is spawned at the origin of the model, and is only a few units wide... it does not reflect the actual shape of the model... its more just a sphere or something.

Anyway I made a vid testing some models in mp_broadcast.

First is a custom model, the 'predator forcefield' from my mod... which has LOD collision. Second is a Mig29, which is a stock model, having LOD collision. Third is a toilet, which is also a stock model, NOT having LOD collision.

The ones with LOD collision DO spawn a bit of collision at the origin, but that's it.

http://www.xfire.com/video/25029c/

DemonSeed writes...
Also pluXy spawned solid model, now i have tried turret with stock map and it was working.

Also 90% of cod4 models doesn't have high collision lod, that means you need to recompile model to make setcontents() working. Thats why most models are clipped on stock cod4 maps.
Demon we aren't talking about 2007 year, and there is now decompiler for models.

DemonSeed writes...When i said "you could dynamically spawn a model - ANY model - and make it solid" ? You wasn't reading my post.
BraX writes...

BraX writes...

Should have told us the model name Brax, probably would have shortened this topic to about 3 pages.

It's bizarre that any stock models would have high coll lod apart from maybe a giant crane. Such small crates I would have thought would be problematic. For instance lots of levels in CODWAW hit the max model limits and it has to calculate which one not to draw which uses up valuable CPU power but if you added just one of these crates to any maxed out area it would affect ALL maxed out portal zones.

I dont believe this is to do with drawing lod.... its the 'bullet collision lod' option in asset manager... but then again.. i dont know why that would have any effect on the model having physical collision..

_INSANE_ writes...I was talking about high collision lod and thats diference.

Exactly... i'm not against you.. im saying, yes, the function does spawn collision.. but just a little.. if you spawn a bigger model, that collision will still stay the same size... just a few units. There will be what seems like collision on smaller models, and some people may be able to get by on that, but not with larger models. I've already tested that, and with that said i'm done talking about this.

Hmm, so by the looks of it, BraX is using the tiny little sphere at the origin of the model as dynamic player collision, I guess this won't work well with large models then.

.KiLL3R. writes...

Ye, it its a collision box 24x24x16 i think, its good for small models, ex. turret.