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Author Topic: Infinity Ward Responds To PC Fanboys' Dedicated Server Woes
DemonSeed
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Posted: Wednesday, Oct. 21, 2009 11:31 am
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You really think that was an Activision idea/decision?
A) IW are the developer that design their game and pitch the ideas to ATVI the publisher, if ATVI likes the ideas they fund them.
A2) IW are hot poo-poo after CoD4 (and technically CoD2), they probably negotiated in their contracts for creative freedom from ATVI decisions. Wasn't there an article just recently where ATVI wanted more WW2 games but IW said f--k that and made MW1. Point in case.
B) Jason West and Vince Zampella sounded a little too happy about IW Net given the circumstances of the petitioning as they minusculed the PC community yesterday. Maybe I just read it differently but they didn't seem to be sympathetic.
C) I doubt Kotick knows what a dedicated server is.


Well, actually, many of feel its all Bobby Kotick's doing. He is well known for instilling:

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a culture of “scepticism, pessimism, and fear” amongst the company’s staff based around the economic depression and an incentive program that rewards “profit and nothing else”.


Kotick is famous for saying that they are very good at doing this.

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He is now famous for saying that Activision are not interested in titles which do not:

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"have the potential to be exploited every year on every platform with clear sequel potential and have the potential to become $100 million franchises".


So, who do you think it is pushing IW into a corner by instilling into them the very fear of God about their employment with the company, and that it is only profit which counts? That their IP has to be capable of becoming a $100 million dollar franchise or be unceromoniously dumped like other titles which dont do this?

IW are being assimilated into Bobby Kotick's economic world view where the all mighty dollar takes all precedence and doesnt care a nickle about the customer. Bobby Kotick could well be a Borg, saying to all the studio's in the Activision Blizzard camp: "you will be assimilated, and your distinctiveness added to our own. Resistence is futile".

IW are now just part of the hive mind; part of the collective. Geek.co.uk did a review about Kotick, and said this:

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If any other CEO exhibited as much contempt for his or her customers as Kotick has, their company would surely expect to face negative feedback or even a consumer boycott. But you just know that nothing like that will happen here. Apart from running the negligible risk of a few blogs printing pictures of him with devil horns or a Hitler moustache, Kotick knows that he’s invulnerable. The gaming “community” just doesn’t have the will or the organisation to, say, boycott Modern Warfare 2, and that – even more than Kotick’s comments – makes us truly sad.


Having look at the reaction around the communities to what is going on, and seeing how the community is divided over whether to stick together and boycott MW2, and those that want to selfishly think about nothing else than themselves and will purchase the game anyway, Geek had it bang on the nail - we do NOT have it in us to do any damage to Kotick's Borg nightmare.

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Posted: Wednesday, Oct. 21, 2009 11:35 am
SparkyMcSparks writes...
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A2) IW are hot poo-poo after CoD4 (and technically CoD2), they probably negotiated in their contracts for creative freedom from ATVI decisions. Wasn't there an article just recently where ATVI wanted more WW2 games but IW said f--k that and made MW1. Point in case.
B) Jason West and Vince Zampella sounded a little too happy about IW Net given the circumstances of the petitioning as they minusculed the PC community yesterday. Maybe I just read it differently but they didn't seem to be sympathetic.


It's probably impossible to know for sure, but I think A2 is essentially correct. I remember reading (somewhere) that IW retained a large measure of creative independence in their original deal with Activision.

As to B, I read their statements in exactly the same way. West and Zampella didn't bother to hide their contempt. Adam Biessener didn't, either.
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Posted: Wednesday, Oct. 21, 2009 11:43 am
If Activision is the company paying the bills and basically buying the game from IW then rest assured that Activision is going to have a lot to say about the development.

edited on Oct. 21, 2009 11:52 am by foyleman *keeping things non-personal.
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Posted: Wednesday, Oct. 21, 2009 11:54 am
LPRay, so I will let it slide, but I just insulted IW in my post (and have been for weeks now) which would make me the opposite of a fanboy... unless it's opposite day. [drink]
But thanks for the personal attack.[thumbs_up]


IW are console advocates the last time I checked, unless someone wants to argue that they ever so love the PC within the last 2 years. They probably made the drastic change all of a sudden because they enjoyed the console experience and decided to port that over to the PC, no mod support or dedicated servers was a by product of that mechanic. West and Zampella probably were banking on the fact yesterday that regular PC players with no mod tool or server admining knowledge would read their statement about the podcast (or only just read their statement about IW Net for the first time) and like the idea but it backfired.
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Posted: Wednesday, Oct. 21, 2009 12:00 pm
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Recently, Infinity Ward renegotiated its Activision contract, with the studio saying the deal "laid the groundwork and kick started our future project, as well as the possibility of a unique new IP [intellectual property] by Infinity Ward, that we’ll have complete control over." Gamasutra, September, 2008
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Posted: Wednesday, Oct. 21, 2009 12:28 pm
DemonSeed writes...
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IW are now just part of the hive mind; part of the collective.

I doubt that. That's like saying IW don't know their own strength.

They recently made two products (CoD2 + CoD4) that sold very very well, and licensed the engine to Treyarch for two games so far (WaW + Bond), and that new Dinosaur game by ATVI kind of seems CoD engine-ish imo.
They are bringing a steadily growing cash flow to Activision, I don't think they would want to remain part of a hive mind if they're doing the grunt work for the publishers most popular franchise.
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Posted: Wednesday, Oct. 21, 2009 12:50 pm
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DemonSeed writes...
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IW are now just part of the hive mind; part of the collective.

I doubt that. That's like saying IW don't know their own strength.

They recently made two products (CoD2 + CoD4) that sold very very well, and licensed the engine to Treyarch for two games so far (WaW + Bond), and that new Dinosaur game by ATVI kind of seems CoD engine-ish imo.
They are bringing a steadily growing cash flow to Activision, I don't think they would want to remain part of a hive mind if they're doing the grunt work for the publishers most popular franchise.


Exactly, they do all the drone work, while the Queen (in this case a king) sits back and watches them do it all. Its exactly the same in the Borg world - the drones do all the work.
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Posted: Wednesday, Oct. 21, 2009 04:40 pm
Well, I was going to bring my couchlock map back to life for MW2. I've actually been working on a new, revamped version but.........

bummer.
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Posted: Wednesday, Oct. 21, 2009 04:59 pm
I added a little something to the right column of the site. It shows the total CURRENT number of petition signatures.
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Posted: Wednesday, Oct. 21, 2009 05:03 pm
DemonSeed writes...
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SparkyMcSparks writes...
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DemonSeed writes...
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IW are now just part of the hive mind; part of the collective.

I doubt that. That's like saying IW don't know their own strength.

They recently made two products (CoD2 + CoD4) that sold very very well, and licensed the engine to Treyarch for two games so far (WaW + Bond), and that new Dinosaur game by ATVI kind of seems CoD engine-ish imo.
They are bringing a steadily growing cash flow to Activision, I don't think they would want to remain part of a hive mind if they're doing the grunt work for the publishers most popular franchise.


Exactly, they do all the drone work, while the Queen (in this case a king) sits back and watches them do it all. Its exactly the same in the Borg world - the drones do all the work.

Sadly though, if they did split from Activision I doubt their attention towards the PC community would get any better.
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