I moved it to the Crysis forum area... same/similar engine.

If anyone wants to read how Valve runs dedicated servers on XBL for the 360 version of Left for Dead, check out this article:

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3169669

It gives a good insight into how IW.net might work. Remember - 402 was asked by iBleedv20 on BASH if the MW2 match making system was like the Left for Dead match making system, and 402 replied "yeah, its very similar". Was he intimating more than just the similarity to the LFD match making system, and hinting how IW.net itself is structured?

I found this on Wikipedia about the LFD match making system:



Given what 402 said about MW2's match making system being "very similar" to LFD's one, have IW come up with a "similar" system of dedicated servers running on IW.net, where a player can either use the matchmaking "pool" of servers or make private servers?

Whereas it seems unlikely that this will happen on launch, but is it possible that IW will follow Valve again and model IW.net on the LFD setup, and allow people to rent dedicated servers from IW and allow "server operators to remove their server from the matchmaking "pool" of servers or make private servers"?

Also consider this - Could it be that IW.net will run on Live for the 360 as well, in the same way that Valve runs dedicated servers on Live for LFD?

Perhaps this thread should have been entitled:

No Privately Owned Dedicated Server Setup: Confirmed by 402

*pitchforks*

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regardless of the small print...

a perfectly working system is to be butchered.

no more maps/mods?

charged for "dlc"


they deserve the aggro for this alone, we all know this can only lead to a wow type scenario..

£10 a month..plus £10 per mappack....rinse and recycle every year.





edited on Oct. 19, 2009 09:36 pm by FAFFER

they already have a system which disallows us from adding "ranked" maps, if that can be locked down...then i'm sure mappack maps could be disallowed if not purchased! makes all this unnecessary!

if they tried to sell us "ranked" maps tho, we wouldn't buy them, they know this...so must kill all mapping/modding.




edited on Oct. 20, 2009 06:57 am by foyleman
* I put some line breaks in the rabble to avoid page stretching.

In all the hulabalu, I think we forgot to listen to 402. He never said there wouldnt be mods. He said he didnt know anything about it, and so remained silent.

The LFD setup has mods downloadable over Steam, and they are put on rented dedicated space on the LFD network. If IW.net is like that, then there is a real possibility for them.

Im not defending 402 for a minute. If he left IW tomorrow it wouldnt be soon enough as he is as useless as a choclate teapot. But he did not say "no mods". Thats something we've all jumped to conclusions on - me included!

There is a LOT to be genuinaly angry about over this: the pee-pee-poor way it was explained; the lateness of the news; no Linux servers ever again; no commercial GSPs ever again; nothing but concentration on the match-making system for at least the first couple of months after launch; no browsers for the private matches at this time.

All of those things are going to make playing MW2 - IF you even buy the game - a very different experience than the one we've all grown accustomed to over the last 6 years. But there is at least a ray of hope if Im right and the setup is like the LFD one on Steam:

1. The possibility of privatly rented dedicated virtual machines from IW themselves, which are brackted off from the matchmaking pool of servers;

2. The possibility of IW implimenting some form of browser for the private matchs and rented dedicated servers which will make clans and competative games a very real possibility again;

3. Mods and custom maps. If Steam can do it, and IW are modelling their IW.net on the Steam delivery system, I see this as almost a certainty.

Paying for DLC would hopefully mean getting it the same day as PS3 users.

SparkyMcSparks writes...

I personally have always said I'd be prepared to pay for DLC if it meant getting it as soon as everyone else. It would save all this faffing around trying to find sponsors and crap.

i dont mind buyin the map packs, the waw ones were fantastic!

but not at the expense of custom maps/mods.

they need to clarify this point, and quick!

This is real, and I found it more than a little amusing:

http://tinypic.com/player.php?v=2ugfmmr&s=4

So, according to his office (IW), 402 is off work sick today. 402's reaction after he heard about the 91,000 signiture petition:



LMAO!!

PC Gamer Blog: Why I signed the Modern Warfare 2 dedicated server petition - PC Gamer Magazine "ead relying on a yet to be revealed, peer-to-peer matchmaking service ca" http://bit.ly/2ggGCK

I wonder if they'll explore this topic in their magazine too.

foyleman writes...

I think Mr Edwards has, like most of us, jumped to the conclusion that its peer-to-peer. Is it though? LFD isnt a P2P network, and 402 said IW.net is "very similar" to that.

I dont think, at this stage, that comparisons should be drawn with XBL, as I dont think its been established that IW.net is a, to quote what many are saying, "a PC version of XBL".