map in progress link (if image doesn't appear)
http://xoomer.virgilio.it/massimagnus/max_pm/max_pm_pianta.jpg

....i am biting my nails with anticipation.....

massimagnus writes...

You don't need to defend yourself here, it's obviously a nice map, be proud... Just some constructive critism based on the game requirements of 450Mhz/16meg video...

Yes it looks very nice and really job well done. The reason why I do critism is because I have seen so many nice maps which look great, but aren't fun to play on public/war.

I am a CB supervisor and we have cups/leagues and sof2 is still a much played game in our cups. People would love to have new maps and willing to play them, unless they aren't to big and not a low FPS.

Still there should be credit to the mapmaker who showed his potential as a mapper. But to get your map on public servers or being used in wars, they need to be perfect in size and the way they are designed.

Thats what is the difference between good mapping and outstanding ;)

PleaseMYOB writes...

ok... but don't you think is a hard limitation to make maps thinking to a late 90s PC configuration? And what about the connection? 28.8 baud modem required? :)

I don't want to choose one of the options that grant th 90 FPS: a) little-and-dense open space map OR b) large desert map OR c) large-but-claustrophobic dedalus full of rooms.. there's already a lot of this kind of maps, I want to make something new, a big outdoor map full of stuff... it needs GHZ and Mb (probably a lot more than what it really needs an optimized one by mapping experinence that it's not mine), it's impossible mission to make it walking forward and looking backward to bygone configs.

This map is the contrary of what a decent mapper have to do.. it's full of unaligned and rotated brushes, spikes, details, textures, all is forced to align with the real village and not the needs of BSPing... it's a catalog of what-you-haven't-to-do with radiant, but I think it willl be an interesting experiment to test the engine... :D

Comm. writes...

OK my map will never be included in leagues/cups loops, that's for shure, but this wasn't my primary objective. It's my very first map for SOF2.. it's really far from optimization, I used to start big things when I want to learn someting to push the tecnology to the limits and get acknowlegded what can be done and what it's better to keep off.

Comm. writes...

For my first "big-project" map for SOF2 i think I will get satisfied for a GOOD rating, I'll aim to OUTSTANDING for the next projects :D

Probably this will be an unplayable, lovely looking map.. I know, but my intent was to make a really lovely-looking map dedicated to all the fans of "the prisoner" TV serie before to make a lovely playable map for MP league competitions!

I'm ready to play it, I've watched every rerun of the show and bought all the life-sized cardboard cutouts of all the main characters....have you released it yet??

ok men.. here we are!

http://xoomer.virgilio.it/massimagnus/max_pm/max_pm.zip

pls feedback about performance.. I think this map culd be played only on local network :(


Enjoy!

PS: it' a 18 Mbytes pack :D

edited on May. 19, 2005 11:52 am by massimagnus

Dear massamignus,

A lot of credit fot the map you made. The size and the design made this a map which costs you alot of time. It really looks very very nice, and probably one of the better maps I have ssen so far.

However, the FPS on the map is so low that you cannot play on the map. MY FPS is 10, thats unplayable.

Conclusion: You proved that you can map very well, only the size of the map is too big for publicservers or wars, but most of all the FPS is really really bad. People have to get at least around 50 stable FPS when they play on servers, when they have 5, everyone is lagging over the place.

Excellent display of your mapping skills.
As mentioned before, though, the map is unplayable, which is unfortunate. FPS is far to low for a single player but add a second player and you have to rename the map "Village of LAAAAAAAG." A friend and I experimented with changing our settings around to make it playable but to no avail
I would love to see a smaller, more playable version.

Im taking up a collection of FPS for ol boy...I'm dontating 10 FPS...if everyone else will chip in, maybe we can play on this map...don't be stingy now, I know you all have some extra FPS laying around....




ps-your link isnt working, whats up??

edited on May. 20, 2005 03:11 pm by freedomfighter