ok now i kno theres a tut on it but i check this one out since it was the only one i saw and it was for radiant and it was weird. didnt look anything like the radiant i have either, well heres the one i saw: http://www.modsonline.com/index.php?mod=Tutorials&op=read&id=130 so plz dont send me that one. does anyone kno of another tutorial of it? i am wanted a big cliff with a zig-zag path going up it.

yeah i want to make a cliff too

I found that "Building Real looking Environments" or somthin like that...tutorial and it wasnt even with COD radiant or Graydiant.

can someone make a tutorial or atleast explain to an extent on how to do such a thing.

It's basically just playing with the "Y" thingy (raising and lowering terrain) and alpha blending some. There is a tutorial in the videosection about making hills.

Hills tutorial.

In my map I used another method, which works much better imo.
I just drag the rows of vertices in a near vertical postion.

Explain yourself please

you can create a patch mesh and manually manipulate the vertices then rotate it 90 degrees so it is standing on edge

what is being described above is taking a terrain mesh and manually pulling the vertices to simulate a cliff....doing so can work, but caution has to be used that you do not position vertices directly over each other or you will get lightmap errors and possible triangulation errors

Yea, but therefore I said neavertical stead of vertical.'

i'd like a 90 degree cliff but i made a patch then made it really hilly then i tried to put it at 90 degrees and it only made it about 70 so with those verticies (or sumthin like that) wut yer sayin is i push "V" then i move it all like that? seems eazy enough, yet wouldnt that stretch the texture?