Well, I know this topic gets talked to death here, but my map now leaks. Two weeks ago my map compiled 100% without problem. Now I've added a whole house and tunnel, now every portal in house apparently has the same cell on both sides. And I get a general leak, the pointfile goes from one of my entities to a point in space below my terrain inhabited my nothing (I checked with everything viewable) and then goes to another point inhabited by nothing but now back above the ground. Neither are anywhere near my skybox.

In my compile log I did get this:
"
entity reached from outside -- no filling
**********************
******* leaked *******
**********************
--- LeakFile ---
3 point linefile
"

I've already spent a few hours trying to fix it and reading old topics. I've been working on this version of my map for awhile and the last version that I know worked perfectly was last saved two weeks ago. I've changed so much that it would be like taking away half my map, I'd really like to just fix this version.

Any help or advice will be greatly appreciated, thank you for your time.

hmm, i presume you have a skybox. Run around in 3d window checking for obscurities. Also check the skybox. Sometimes I leave a 1 block opening in my skybox so I can get a fast compile to check for texture errors and then when i wanna do full compile i forgot about the 1 block opening i left in skybox. Make sure the sky box is fully closed. If all else fails redo your skybox and make it a lil bigger. Something is either clipping through it now or is outside of it.

make sure you turn all of your views on (view --> show --> checkmark all) and that you are not filtering anything out (view --> filter --> checkmark everything)

then load pointfile

a leak isnt neccessarily a hole in your skybox, but can be something outside of your skybox, and following the line can be difficult

also, a leak (.lin file) that is shown in pointfile isnt always a skybox leak....if you have portals, it could be a portal leak that you are following....make sure that you scroll through all of the leak locations to find the one that is causing the map to leak

Okay, I don't get to map on the weekends so it took awhile to test things. I made some changes, checked out some things, deleted my leaking portals, and re-compiled.

(My compile doesn’t create a “.prt” file or another file, I can’t remember the extension but it starts with a “b”.)

It still leaks, this time though it's a straight line though that proceeds from an entity to a point inhabited by absolutely nothing still within my skybox. I checked, and nothing is being filtered out or hidden. I checked my skybox as well, I don't see any holes. It must be an object outside but I have not idea how to find it.

I've looked around in the 3D window, I've drawn extremely large brushes outside my skybox, selected inside, and hit backspace. I just don't know what else to do.

The closer I get to finishing the farther away the end seems. But I don't want to abandon this map both because of the time I've put into it, and because if I don’t address these problems they'll probably just follow me to my next map.

the line will be drawn from an entity within your skybox (origin) to the leak location (origin)

so if the line is starting inside your skybox....follow it to where it ends (outside the skybox)

at the point where it ends draw a box so that the end is in the middle of the box and press "I" or click select inside and press backspace to delete it

i would have to assume that since you arent seeing anything you are filtering something out

also make sure that you are allowing selection of both models and entities (radio buttons on the toolbar) just in case

I've double checked, and yes, I can select models and entities. My pointfile is a straight line, so that would mean there's only one leak, right? Well the line starts in my skybox and doesn't leave my skybox. In fact it is only about 200 units long. When I go to the toolbar - Misc - Next or Previous Leak Spot it doesn't go anywhere.

I'm starting to wonder if it's leaking at all. My compile isn't creating all the files, is that a result of or cause of leaks in anyway?

My compile log:

Quote:

C:\games\Call of Duty\uo\maps\mp>"C:\Games\Call of Duty\uoTools\bin\q3map" -game uo "C:\Games\Call of Duty\uo\maps\testmap7.map" Q3Map v1.2 (c) 2003 Id Software Inc. / Infinity Ward / GMI Studios ---- q3map ---- ----- FS_Startup ----- Current search path: C:/Games/Call of Duty/\uo\uomappack00.pk3 (143 files) C:/Games/Call of Duty/\uo\pakuo07.pk3 (157 files) C:/Games/Call of Duty/\uo\pakuo06.pk3 (12 files) C:/Games/Call of Duty/\uo\pakuo05.pk3 (3 files) C:/Games/Call of Duty/\uo\pakuo04.pk3 (7646 files) C:/Games/Call of Duty/\uo\pakuo03.pk3 (2275 files) C:/Games/Call of Duty/\uo\pakuo02.pk3 (790 files) C:/Games/Call of Duty/\uo\pakuo01.pk3 (1657 files) C:/Games/Call of Duty/\uo\pakuo00.pk3 (6233 files) C:/Games/Call of Duty//uo C:/Games/Call of Duty//Call of Duty C:/Games/Call of Duty/\main\pakb.pk3 (60 files) C:/Games/Call of Duty/\main\paka.pk3 (41 files) C:/Games/Call of Duty/\main\pak9.pk3 (149 files) C:/Games/Call of Duty/\main\pak8.pk3 (235 files) C:/Games/Call of Duty/\main\pak6.pk3 (3 files) C:/Games/Call of Duty/\main\pak5.pk3 (4858 files) C:/Games/Call of Duty/\main\pak4.pk3 (1668 files) C:/Games/Call of Duty/\main\pak3.pk3 (1992 files) C:/Games/Call of Duty/\main\pak2.pk3 (694 files) C:/Games/Call of Duty/\main\pak1.pk3 (2642 files) C:/Games/Call of Duty/\main\pak0.pk3 (12816 files) C:/Games/Call of Duty//main C:/Games/Call of Duty/\uo\localized_english_pakuo02.pk3 (12 files) C:/Games/Call of Duty/\uo\localized_english_pakuo01.pk3 (37 files) C:/Games/Call of Duty/\uo\localized_english_pakuo00.pk3 (2578 files) C:/Games/Call of Duty/\main\localized_english_pak5.pk3 (46 files) C:/Games/Call of Duty/\main\localized_english_pak3.pk3 (7 files) C:/Games/Call of Duty/\main\localized_english_pak2.pk3 (9 files) C:/Games/Call of Duty/\main\localized_english_pak1.pk3 (3736 files) C:/Games/Call of Duty/\main\localized_english_pak0.pk3 (1204 files) File Handles: ---------------------- 51703 files in pk3 files Loading map file C:\Games\Call of Duty\uo\maps\testmap7.map WARNING: Couldn't find image for shader textures/skins/paper@megaphone_papers WARNING: Couldn't find image for shader textures/sky/mp_dawnville WARNING: Couldn't find image for shader textures/sfx/mp_sicilywater WARNING: Couldn't find image for shader textures/common/clip_nosight_dirt WARNING: No collision map file for misc_model "xmodel/grasstuft_small3" file: "c ollmaps/grasstuft_small3.map" WARNING: No collision map file for misc_model "xmodel/grasstuft_small3" file: "c ollmaps/grasstuft_small3.map" WARNING: No collision map file for misc_model "xmodel/grasstuft_small3" file: "c ollmaps/grasstuft_small3.map" WARNING: No collision map file for misc_model "xmodel/grasstuft_small3" file: "c ollmaps/grasstuft_small3.map" WARNING: Couldn't find image for shader textures/common/clip_nosight_nothing WARNING: No collision map file for misc_model "xmodel/dawnville_pencil" file: "c ollmaps/dawnville_pencil.map" WARNING: No collision map file for misc_model "xmodel/grasstuft_small3" file: "c ollmaps/grasstuft_small3.map" WARNING: entity 0 brush 1607: tris with 2+ major axes; bad lighting likely WARNING: entity 0 brush 1605: tris with 2+ major axes; bad lighting likely ********************** ******* leaked ******* ********************** WARNING: portal at (2206 -773 63) entity 0 brush 1334 has the same cell on both sides, portal ignored WARNING: portal at (2114 -802 39) entity 0 brush 1319 has the same cell on both sides, portal ignored WARNING: portal at (2114 -876 39) entity 0 brush 1331 has the same cell on both sides, portal ignored WARNING: portal at (2188 -771 -96) entity 0 brush 1295 has the same cell on both sides, portal ignored WARNING: portal at (2116 -986 -77) entity 0 brush 1521 has the same cell on both sides, portal ignored WARNING: portal at (1918 -803 39) entity 0 brush 1271 has the same cell on both sides, portal ignored WARNING: portal at (1913 -986 39) entity 0 brush 1323 has the same cell on both sides, portal ignored WARNING: portal at (1793 -823 55) entity 0 brush 1324 has the same cell on both sides, portal ignored WARNING: portal at (1794 -935 63) entity 0 brush 1346 has the same cell on both sides, portal ignored WARNING: portal at (1880 -1016 -97) entity 0 brush 1298 has the same cell on bot h sides, portal ignored 65 unique shaders 62 actual shaders finding triangle windings... merging into concave windings... added 325 points for thin polygons (1.1% more points) fixing t-junctions... finding index mapping and snapping vertices... triangulating all windings... 0 self-tjunctions fixed 10 degenerate tris removed simplifying triangles... 269 tris simplified away (1.6%) emitting triangles... 216 vertices couldn't be merged because the textures point different ways Writing C:\Games\Call of Duty\uo\maps\testmap7.bsp 19 seconds elapsed C:\games\Call of Duty\uo\maps\mp>pause Press any key to continue . . . C:\games\Call of Duty\uo\maps\mp>"C:\Games\Call of Duty\uoTools\bin\q3map" -vis -fast -game uo "C:\Games\Call of Duty\uo\maps\testmap7.map" Q3Map v1.2 (c) 2003 Id Software Inc. / Infinity Ward / GMI Studios ---- vis ---- fastvis = true ----- FS_Startup ----- Current search path: C:/Games/Call of Duty/\uo\uomappack00.pk3 (143 files) C:/Games/Call of Duty/\uo\pakuo07.pk3 (157 files) C:/Games/Call of Duty/\uo\pakuo06.pk3 (12 files) C:/Games/Call of Duty/\uo\pakuo05.pk3 (3 files) C:/Games/Call of Duty/\uo\pakuo04.pk3 (7646 files) C:/Games/Call of Duty/\uo\pakuo03.pk3 (2275 files) C:/Games/Call of Duty/\uo\pakuo02.pk3 (790 files) C:/Games/Call of Duty/\uo\pakuo01.pk3 (1657 files) C:/Games/Call of Duty/\uo\pakuo00.pk3 (6233 files) C:/Games/Call of Duty//uo C:/Games/Call of Duty//Call of Duty C:/Games/Call of Duty/\main\pakb.pk3 (60 files) C:/Games/Call of Duty/\main\paka.pk3 (41 files) C:/Games/Call of Duty/\main\pak9.pk3 (149 files) C:/Games/Call of Duty/\main\pak8.pk3 (235 files) C:/Games/Call of Duty/\main\pak6.pk3 (3 files) C:/Games/Call of Duty/\main\pak5.pk3 (4858 files) C:/Games/Call of Duty/\main\pak4.pk3 (1668 files) C:/Games/Call of Duty/\main\pak3.pk3 (1992 files) C:/Games/Call of Duty/\main\pak2.pk3 (694 files) C:/Games/Call of Duty/\main\pak1.pk3 (2642 files) C:/Games/Call of Duty/\main\pak0.pk3 (12816 files) C:/Games/Call of Duty//main C:/Games/Call of Duty/\uo\localized_english_pakuo02.pk3 (12 files) C:/Games/Call of Duty/\uo\localized_english_pakuo01.pk3 (37 files) C:/Games/Call of Duty/\uo\localized_english_pakuo00.pk3 (2578 files) C:/Games/Call of Duty/\main\localized_english_pak5.pk3 (46 files) C:/Games/Call of Duty/\main\localized_english_pak3.pk3 (7 files) C:/Games/Call of Duty/\main\localized_english_pak2.pk3 (9 files) C:/Games/Call of Duty/\main\localized_english_pak1.pk3 (3736 files) C:/Games/Call of Duty/\main\localized_english_pak0.pk3 (1204 files) File Handles: ---------------------- 51703 files in pk3 files reading C:\Games\Call of Duty\uo\maps\testmap7.bsp reading C:\Games\Call of Duty\uo\maps\testmap7.prt LoadPortals: couldn't read C:\Games\Call of Duty\uo\maps\testmap7.prt C:\games\Call of Duty\uo\maps\mp>pause Press any key to continue . . .

I know about my portals, I'm still trying to fix them. I also already know what's the reason for the "bad lighting likely" errors. Unless those are the reason for my "leak" than I don't know. Plus, like I said before, I deleted my offending portals just to be sure. And the new compile log looked exactly like this but without the 'same cell' portal warnings.

your straight line is your portals leaking

judging from the compile log output, you may not have your editor set up correctly. ensure that you have it set up according to the way explained in this tutorial

if you are compiling for mp, then you should be compiling from maps/mp/ not maps/

move your .bat and .map there and try a recompile

Also go to each of your portal brushes listed in the log and make sure that they are against structural brushes as well. If they aren't it will also create leaks

Cheers

I'm almost certain that the portals are a separate problem. I deleted all of them and recompiled under a different name and the resultant compile log looked exactly the same except that it lacked all the "cell on both sides, portal ignored" errors. Yet it still said that it leaked and produced the same pointfile (which was different from my current pointfile in that it had two points rather than one).

And as for my set up, I did follow the tutorial, if I remember correctly. I haven't changed anything besides my map and the .bat since everything worked. I will look into it though.

As for my portals. I really don't know what's up with them. I've filtered out detail brushes and checked how they fit to the structural brushes many times. One question about them though. I originally created them from a detail caulk brush that I textured with Portal Nodraw and Portal. This would make them detail I guess, but then to see them while filtering out the detail brushes I made them structural. Would any of that make them stop working? Either way I may just delete all my portals and redo them.

To illustrate here is my compile log after all potals have been deleted. It still says that it leaked.

Is it's inability to create a .bak and .prt file the cause of or result of my problem?

Quote:

C:\games\Call of Duty\uo\maps\mp>"C:\Games\Call of Duty\uoTools\bin\q3map" -game uo "C:\Games\Call of Duty\uo\maps\mp\testmap7np.map" Q3Map v1.2 (c) 2003 Id Software Inc. / Infinity Ward / GMI Studios ---- q3map ---- ----- FS_Startup ----- Current search path: C:/Games/Call of Duty/\uo\uomappack00.pk3 (143 files) C:/Games/Call of Duty/\uo\pakuo07.pk3 (157 files) C:/Games/Call of Duty/\uo\pakuo06.pk3 (12 files) C:/Games/Call of Duty/\uo\pakuo05.pk3 (3 files) C:/Games/Call of Duty/\uo\pakuo04.pk3 (7646 files) C:/Games/Call of Duty/\uo\pakuo03.pk3 (2275 files) C:/Games/Call of Duty/\uo\pakuo02.pk3 (790 files) C:/Games/Call of Duty/\uo\pakuo01.pk3 (1657 files) C:/Games/Call of Duty/\uo\pakuo00.pk3 (6233 files) C:/Games/Call of Duty//uo C:/Games/Call of Duty//Call of Duty C:/Games/Call of Duty/\main\pakb.pk3 (60 files) C:/Games/Call of Duty/\main\paka.pk3 (41 files) C:/Games/Call of Duty/\main\pak9.pk3 (149 files) C:/Games/Call of Duty/\main\pak8.pk3 (235 files) C:/Games/Call of Duty/\main\pak6.pk3 (3 files) C:/Games/Call of Duty/\main\pak5.pk3 (4858 files) C:/Games/Call of Duty/\main\pak4.pk3 (1668 files) C:/Games/Call of Duty/\main\pak3.pk3 (1992 files) C:/Games/Call of Duty/\main\pak2.pk3 (694 files) C:/Games/Call of Duty/\main\pak1.pk3 (2642 files) C:/Games/Call of Duty/\main\pak0.pk3 (12816 files) C:/Games/Call of Duty//main C:/Games/Call of Duty/\uo\localized_english_pakuo02.pk3 (12 files) C:/Games/Call of Duty/\uo\localized_english_pakuo01.pk3 (37 files) C:/Games/Call of Duty/\uo\localized_english_pakuo00.pk3 (2578 files) C:/Games/Call of Duty/\main\localized_english_pak5.pk3 (46 files) C:/Games/Call of Duty/\main\localized_english_pak3.pk3 (7 files) C:/Games/Call of Duty/\main\localized_english_pak2.pk3 (9 files) C:/Games/Call of Duty/\main\localized_english_pak1.pk3 (3736 files) C:/Games/Call of Duty/\main\localized_english_pak0.pk3 (1204 files) File Handles: ---------------------- 51703 files in pk3 files Loading map file C:\Games\Call of Duty\uo\maps\mp\testmap7np.map WARNING: Couldn't find image for shader textures/skins/paper@megaphone_papers WARNING: Couldn't find image for shader textures/sky/mp_kharkov WARNING: Couldn't find image for shader textures/sfx/mp_sicilywater WARNING: Couldn't find image for shader textures/common/clip_nosight_dirt WARNING: No collision map file for misc_model "xmodel/grasstuft_small3" file: "c ollmaps/grasstuft_small3.map" WARNING: No collision map file for misc_model "xmodel/grasstuft_small3" file: "c ollmaps/grasstuft_small3.map" WARNING: No collision map file for misc_model "xmodel/grasstuft_small3" file: "c ollmaps/grasstuft_small3.map" WARNING: No collision map file for misc_model "xmodel/grasstuft_small3" file: "c ollmaps/grasstuft_small3.map" WARNING: Couldn't find image for shader textures/common/clip_nosight_nothing WARNING: No collision map file for misc_model "xmodel/dawnville_pencil" file: "c ollmaps/dawnville_pencil.map" WARNING: No collision map file for misc_model "xmodel/grasstuft_small3" file: "c ollmaps/grasstuft_small3.map" WARNING: No collision map file for misc_model "xmodel/shadow_fullspikeyshrub_noc ollision" file: "collmaps/shadow_fullspikeyshrub_nocollision.map" WARNING: No collision map file for misc_model "xmodel/shadow_fullspikeyshrub_noc ollision" file: "collmaps/shadow_fullspikeyshrub_nocollision.map" WARNING: No collision map file for misc_model "xmodel/shadow_fullspikeyshrub_noc ollision" file: "collmaps/shadow_fullspikeyshrub_nocollision.map" WARNING: No collision map file for misc_model "xmodel/shadow_fullspikeyshrub_noc ollision" file: "collmaps/shadow_fullspikeyshrub_nocollision.map" WARNING: No collision map file for misc_model "xmodel/shadow_fullspikeyshrub_noc ollision" file: "collmaps/shadow_fullspikeyshrub_nocollision.map" WARNING: entity 0 brush 1589: tris with 2+ major axes; bad lighting likely WARNING: entity 0 brush 1587: tris with 2+ major axes; bad lighting likely ********************** ******* leaked ******* ********************** 72 unique shaders 69 actual shaders finding triangle windings... merging into concave windings... added 327 points for thin polygons (1.1% more points) fixing t-junctions... finding index mapping and snapping vertices... triangulating all windings... 0 self-tjunctions fixed 12 degenerate tris removed simplifying triangles... 269 tris simplified away (1.6%) emitting triangles... 224 vertices couldn't be merged because the textures point different ways Writing C:\Games\Call of Duty\uo\maps\mp\testmap7np.bsp 18 seconds elapsed C:\games\Call of Duty\uo\maps\mp>pause Press any key to continue . . . C:\games\Call of Duty\uo\maps\mp>"C:\Games\Call of Duty\uoTools\bin\q3map" -vis -fast -game uo "C:\Games\Call of Duty\uo\maps\mp\testmap7np.map" Q3Map v1.2 (c) 2003 Id Software Inc. / Infinity Ward / GMI Studios ---- vis ---- fastvis = true ----- FS_Startup ----- Current search path: C:/Games/Call of Duty/\uo\uomappack00.pk3 (143 files) C:/Games/Call of Duty/\uo\pakuo07.pk3 (157 files) C:/Games/Call of Duty/\uo\pakuo06.pk3 (12 files) C:/Games/Call of Duty/\uo\pakuo05.pk3 (3 files) C:/Games/Call of Duty/\uo\pakuo04.pk3 (7646 files) C:/Games/Call of Duty/\uo\pakuo03.pk3 (2275 files) C:/Games/Call of Duty/\uo\pakuo02.pk3 (790 files) C:/Games/Call of Duty/\uo\pakuo01.pk3 (1657 files) C:/Games/Call of Duty/\uo\pakuo00.pk3 (6233 files) C:/Games/Call of Duty//uo C:/Games/Call of Duty//Call of Duty C:/Games/Call of Duty/\main\pakb.pk3 (60 files) C:/Games/Call of Duty/\main\paka.pk3 (41 files) C:/Games/Call of Duty/\main\pak9.pk3 (149 files) C:/Games/Call of Duty/\main\pak8.pk3 (235 files) C:/Games/Call of Duty/\main\pak6.pk3 (3 files) C:/Games/Call of Duty/\main\pak5.pk3 (4858 files) C:/Games/Call of Duty/\main\pak4.pk3 (1668 files) C:/Games/Call of Duty/\main\pak3.pk3 (1992 files) C:/Games/Call of Duty/\main\pak2.pk3 (694 files) C:/Games/Call of Duty/\main\pak1.pk3 (2642 files) C:/Games/Call of Duty/\main\pak0.pk3 (12816 files) C:/Games/Call of Duty//main C:/Games/Call of Duty/\uo\localized_english_pakuo02.pk3 (12 files) C:/Games/Call of Duty/\uo\localized_english_pakuo01.pk3 (37 files) C:/Games/Call of Duty/\uo\localized_english_pakuo00.pk3 (2578 files) C:/Games/Call of Duty/\main\localized_english_pak5.pk3 (46 files) C:/Games/Call of Duty/\main\localized_english_pak3.pk3 (7 files) C:/Games/Call of Duty/\main\localized_english_pak2.pk3 (9 files) C:/Games/Call of Duty/\main\localized_english_pak1.pk3 (3736 files) C:/Games/Call of Duty/\main\localized_english_pak0.pk3 (1204 files) File Handles: ---------------------- 51703 files in pk3 files reading C:\Games\Call of Duty\uo\maps\mp\testmap7np.bsp reading C:\Games\Call of Duty\uo\maps\mp\testmap7np.prt LoadPortals: couldn't read C:\Games\Call of Duty\uo\maps\mp\testmap7np.prt C:\games\Call of Duty\uo\maps\mp>pause Press any key to continue . . .